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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by suresk »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #391
baggy_trough wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or what?

Well, there's always the option of just demolishing the ship and its cargo, getting everything out of the canal without worrying about whether any of it survives the process. That would still be expensive, but is it more expensive than blocking the canal?

How do you destroy a 1300 ft ship with 20k+ TEUs of cargo on it? How do you then clean all of the debris out of a pretty narrow and shallow canal so that other ships can go through again?

I can't imagine that being a very quick thing to do.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by the8472 »

barbegal wrote: post #291

It will be weeks before this ship is free. Fuel and oil can be pumped out but that only makes up a fraction of the total weight of the vessel. Containers can be unloaded but again the lightest will be at the top so a significant number will need to be removed to make a big enough difference. And unloading them will be a slow process. You can maybe unload a few per hour with helicopters. There doesn't exist any infras…

> Again the infrastructure to do this rapidly doesn't exist.

The UAE used several sand-vacuuming ships to build their artificial islands, wouldn't those do the job?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Clewza313 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #391
baggy_trough wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or what?

Well, there's always the option of just demolishing the ship and its cargo, getting everything out of the canal without worrying about whether any of it survives the process. That would still be expensive, but is it more expensive than blocking the canal?

It's still easier to dislodge a giant ship in one piece than it is to remove one giant ship's worth of random metal shrapnel from a narrow, shallow canal.

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Post by [deleted] »

nomy99 wrote: post #164
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

People think I'm joking but we should bomb it to smithereens. The crater would probably just fill up with the water flow.

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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by aidenn0 »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #252
aidenn0 wrote: post #198

A balloon half a kilometer in radius filled with hydrogen should be able to float the ship.

How would you acquire that much hydrogen, and how much would it cost?

Hydrogen is cheap; That's only about $42M at today's prices.

If it wasn't clear the whole "lift it with a balloon" thing was a joke though

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

nomy99 wrote: post #164
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

People think I'm joking but we should bomb it to smithereens. The crater would probably just fill up with the water flow.

If this had gotten stuck in 1960s Russia they would have done that already.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by ignoramous »

baggy_trough wrote: post #359
xwdv wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This ship is delaying $400 million dollars per hour in global trades. It better not fucking take weeks.

Or what?

...or 24h * 7d * 2w * 400 million = 134 billion USD.

Sounds like a lot of money, if GP's right?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by TylerE »

wongarsu wrote: post #323
fileeditview wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the exact same idea but the canal bank is very shallow.. so you would have to build around the whole ship (as you said). This also seems like a major undertaking. I am excited to see how they will solve the problem though!

If the bank is very shallow and mostly sand, maybe instead of building a damn all around the ship it would be easier to just dredge a new passage that goes around the stuck ship. After all the real problem isn't that the ship is run aground, it's that the canal is blocked for everyone else.

If would be a very long diversion. The turning radius of large ships is, well, astronomical, we're talking miles.

The canal itself is MASSIVE - 79ft deep and 700ft wide - and if you're turning you'd need to be wider still. We're talking about removing absolutely massive amounts of material.

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