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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by dang »

allbedarned wrote: post #393
dang wrote: post #334

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(This is a stub reply so I can collapse the various comments responding to this, so as not to distract too much from the rest of the thread. Sorry, non-JS users.)

Lolll. Dang is literally cringe. Signed up to reply to him, the message has been moved or deleted loll, so nevermind. Also not sure he realizes that nowadays half the "hn'ers" are just simple redditor; he keeps implying hners are somehow elite lol. Dog we are redditors, you live in your own world dang.

I don't know which message you're referring to but if you link to it, we can tell you what happened.

I don't think hners are elite? and yes, many people use both HN and Reddit - why shouldn't they?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by dang »

saagarjha wrote: post #368
dang wrote: post #334

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(This is a stub reply so I can collapse the various comments responding to this, so as not to distract too much from the rest of the thread. Sorry, non-JS users.)

I've seen a lot of otherwise reasonable threads get bogged down by "lowest common denominator" replies, especially ones that don't require reading the article and could really be posted in any thread matching the right keywords. Such comments are *really* easy to make and frequently do "well" in that they attract votes and comments, drowning out the rest of the discussion. Do you have ideas on how to combat this? Obv…

I do have an idea. It requires human intervention but there's no reason the humans have to be official moderators. My idea is to build software support for users (probably a subset of trusted users) to downweight generic subthreads the same way moderators currently do. In the meantime, if anyone notices such a thread they can simulate the same effect by emailing hn@ycombinator.com about it.

We already have software support for a subset of trusted users to do things like add years to titles. (If anyone wants to be incorporated into that set, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.) That was an experiment and it's worked out really well. I want to extend it and this is on the list of possible extensions.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by gist »

dang wrote: post #282
bordercases wrote: post #232

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This equivalent of "RTFM" is a hostile percept for communication, as it implies that it is right to hide or obfuscate relevant information so that the speaker has less of a job to do when producing clear speech. There are benefits to "RTFM". They may involve making sure there are shared assumptions during speech that allow further speech to be economized equitably between speaker and receiver. They may involve the in…

Oh I don't agree. I think there are downsides to putting a 'mod' tag beside usernames, quite strong downsides actually, in addition to the upside that you guys are correctly noting. It's a tradeoff. I'm glad that I listened to my intuition 7 years ago (ack) when I became responsible for HN, and chose to trust the way things had always functioned here. I don't see this as RTFM; there's no FM to begin with, other than…

> Oh I don't agree. I think there are downsides to putting a 'mod' tag beside usernames, quite strong downsides actually

What are those 'downsides....quite strong downsides actually'?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by ZeikJT »

lovegoblin wrote: post #396
alsetmusic wrote: post #271

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> I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management. A show that I listen to skipped a week during the early stages of the pandemic. I was concerned that one of the hosts was ill / possibly dying. It was some planned thing, like a vacation or something. A little notice would have been nice. Sure, these are strangers and my emotional investment is a bit like te…

> A little notice would have been nice. Serious question: why? So an episode doesn't show up in your feed one week. I doubt I would even notice in the first place, much less jump to being concerned about the hosts' health or much less jump to feeling put out by the lack of warning.

The difference is exactly that you wouldn't notice and the other person would. There's a difference between a recurring piece of media being a drop in the bucket and having a specific thing you look forward to watching or listening to every week. If one week you're waiting for it to drop and it's mysteriously absent you might suspect something is wrong.

Seems reasonable to me.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by _-david-_ »

midasz wrote: post #386
_-david-_ wrote: post #128

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If strictly hosting illegal content / being slow to remove it means you should be booted from AWS then how on earth is Twitter still using AWS?

> being slow to remove it They just didn't. There's a difference between being slow and just not doing it at all.

Twitter has just not removed stuff as well so I don't think that is actually a difference between them.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by athms »

philistine wrote: post #244
swlkr wrote: post #150

The ideal platform for something like youtube would be to separate discovery from content. You host the content, and you can pick from UIs/algorithms for the discovery.

If you’re serious about content, you have to serious about distribution. It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware.

>It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware.

The actual quote, "people who are really serious about software should make their own hardware," is from Alan Kay, when he was speaking at a seminar in 1982 called Creative Think. Andy Hertzfeld was in attendance and took notes. When Hertzfeld got back to his office at Apple, he summarized the notes on one page and handed out to his team members. Kay was later hired as an Apple Fellow in 1984.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by user-the-name »

_-david-_ wrote: post #405
midasz wrote: post #386

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> being slow to remove it They just didn't. There's a difference between being slow and just not doing it at all.

Twitter has just not removed stuff as well so I don't think that is actually a difference between them.

Twitter hosts their own servers rather than agreeing to another company's terms of service.

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Post by roenxi »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #394
roenxi wrote: post #344

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It is patently absurd to argue that you can accept someone as a woman and not accept it is obvious that they are feminine enough to compete in women's sports. I don't think I'm the one getting tripped up here. That is just a lot of pretend complexity to justify transphobic beliefs. It just being "facts" that determine your personal social beliefs is exactly the same sort of scientific appeal to justify bigotry that i…

> If you believe someone's genitals determine how they should be treated socially, you are being transphobic. I personally think that is a stupid standard, but that is the standard that has been set for transphobia. I cannot tell if you're trolling or just intentionally ignoring all the related nuance. You must understand there are some circumstances when it is acceptable to acknowledge that a trans women has a bio m…

I'm not trolling, I'm pointing out the obvious - you are espousing mildly transphobic principles and you should reassess your framework until it makes sense.

Someone with a prostate having prostate cancer and needing treatment has an obvious, involuntary, cause and the person is presumably voluntarily cooperative in being treated.

Thinking that it is even possibly reasonable to exclude a woman from playing womans sport because you don't believe they are womanly enough, regardless of their beliefs, is blatant transphobia. And the long pseudo-science "not men but kinda men" justification is the sort of thing bigots tried to deploy against gays, religious minorities and women in the past. That should stop. If someone is a women, and we can treat them like women, we should treat them like a woman. Ditto how humans should be treated like humans.

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Post by imwillofficial »

erk__ wrote: post #307
judge2020 wrote: post #278

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> DRM Free movie downloads This isn't even remotely related to Vimeo or YouTube. If you're talking about movies legitimately published by the rights owners not being DRM'd on Vimeo, then there's nothing stopping the studio from uploading a DRM-free version to YouTube as well. IF you're talking about piracy simply because Vimeo doesn't have Content ID, then that's also just a failure of Vimeo and/or the studios not re…

No I was talking about video on demand, if you try pretty much any other service for it none of them allows creators to upload drm free files for the user to download. Sure you can upload a file "drm free" to YouTube but it is not download able and there is put drm on them. This is of course something that is unrelated to the greater discussion in this post, but it have been something I have found different on vimeo…

You continue to, willfully, argue a point nobody cares about. Nobody cares about Venmo, it’s a crappy YouTube. The issue is creating content on big techs platform and the danger it entails.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by lovegoblin »

imwillofficial wrote: post #29
scrose wrote: post #23

I can’t help but wonder why services like Vimeo don’t come up more often when getting off of YouTube? It seems like Vimeo offers similar functionality already. Is there something about it that I’m missing / is it just not cool for content creators?

What does Vimeo offer that YouTube doesn’t do better? What reduction in risk does Vimeo offer that is any different than YouTube?

Vimeo's much bigger in the film festival scene, for example. It's one of the primary ways films are submitted to small-to-mid festivals. It has a whole infrastructure for that - e.g., I upload my film once and then can manage submissions to different festivals from there - and if you're not in that industry you wouldn't ever see that functionality.
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