Will be interesting to see what he says next week about AWS, as that's further down the stack than something like Twitter.
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#402Slippery slope is accelerating. Soon any wrongthink will get you banned by the tech cabal.
I'm confident if I show up to work on Monday and start asking people on our slack channel who wants to help me plan an assassination on an elected official I'll also be "de-platformed" for my "wrong think" by my company.
This is a simple problem to to solve: stop planning and committing acts of violence because you disagree with someone else's politics. Nobody is getting banned because they think abortion is wrong or that we should try to balance the national deficit...
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#403Slippery slope is accelerating. Soon any wrongthink will get you banned by the tech cabal.
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#404Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…
For reasons I can’t quite figure out, HN will crucify you for equating correlation with causation, but seems incredibly fond of this equally invalid mode of reasoning.
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#406Oracle should scoop them up, lot of AWS customers have moved to OCI which is also cheaper in cost.
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#407Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…
However, I think the real question is, if you have qualms about them, why use them at all? There are alternatives. Generally, people use them because they want to reach the corps. audience, or want to use the corps. infrastructure because its 'easier' then building there own. If thats the case, you're basically saying you're 'okay' with them having all the rights the TOS grants them.
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#408The flip side of this is that if, years from now there's a "free speech" payment processor, cloud host, social network and all the rest, de-platforming for a different subculture than the current mainstream service providers allow becomes harder. We talk about the balkanization of the internet, but there's a possible future where there is a balkanization across cultural lines based on overlapping ethos, not just geographical divisions.
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#409https://happymag.tv/parler-free-speech-social-media-banning-...
This means that all of the high minded talk of freedom of speech by the founder is really just a charade, and Parler is really just a right-wing social network.
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#410"Sunday (tomorrow) at midnight Amazon will be shutting off all of our servers in an attempt to completely remove free speech off the internet. There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.
We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business, however Amazon, Google and Apple purposefully did this as a coordinated effort knowing our options would be limited and knowing this would inflict the most damage right as President Trump was banned from the tech companies.
This was a coordinated attack by the tech giants to kill competition in the market place. We were too successful too fast. You can expect the war on competition and free speech to continue, but don’t count us out."