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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by defnotashton2 »

logicOnly wrote: post #307
sasaf5 wrote: post #292

Don't buy a TV, buy a screen and connect it to your own media source. Preferably offline media. You can be a lot more deliberate about the content you consume and there won't be tracking (though there might still be ads in the media).

I read about these problems and they really only effect low information consumers. Anyone that researches can get a TV without ads for hundreds of dollars. I don't buy anything from Samsung, it sounds like a user issue. Samsung is notorious for being awful.

Top panels all have these "features" honey.. You can get a shit panel without ads or smarts...

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Post by deergomoo »

pseudalopex wrote: post #285
deergomoo wrote: post #182

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It does exactly what you would hope, at least for Samsung TVs. Ads disappear, other functions are not affected. Upon discovering the ads I was gonna return mine for a comparable LG, until I learned LG also have ads—at least this way I can pretend I'm not being taken for a ride. At the time I didn't have any external devices capable of 4K Netflix or YouTube; now I do I should factory reset the TV and set it up without…

The article says LG removed the ad.

Damn, maybe I should have done the return then.

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Post by Swenrekcah »

piva00 wrote: post #377
Swenrekcah wrote: post #313

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Well, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know it was an option. But what if I need to input a language that's not supported or I just don't want to yell at my TV to search a video?

Then my iPhone pops up a "Keyboard Input" notification with a text input that I can type from the phone without unlocking it. Of course, if you don't have your phone nearby it might suck but let's be realistic, how often you don't have your phone close by when watching TV? P.S.: Yes, I know, if you are an Android user there is no way out and Apple sucks for that, not defending them at all.

This is a company supposedly famous for great user interfaces and usability. Why not try to live up to it?

There are actually many times I don't have my phone with me while watching TV. I carry it with me everywhere all day, but I try to keep it on the table most of the time when at home.

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Post by pixxel »

Kipters wrote: post #76
Kelteseth wrote: post #44

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This. Just buy an NVidia shield and use your TV as a monitor. The UI and the fact that it uses AndroidTV and not some shitty Samsung OS is reason alone to buy it. Also my Samsung TV gets a start signal from my NVidida Shield so I do not even have to bother with using 2 remotes :)

That's exactly what I've been doing with my 2019 Samsung TV and and a Shield Pro. The TV is unplugged from the internet and all my streaming is done from the Shield, which is even better because: 1. The Netflix/Prime Video etc apps are snappier because of the beefier SoC 2. Content looks better, because DLSS does a better job at upscaling than the TV's native upscaler 3. I can use it to stream games from my PC, which…

Re. point 3.

Have you streamed yet or it’s just an option right now? Something I’m considering but I’ve not looked into. Wondering about lag, and if I have to run upstairs to my pc to start games etc.

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Post by joking »

Kipters wrote: post #283
paulus_magnus2 wrote: post #268

Can someone with 1st hand experience reassure me I would be able to use a commercial digital signage as a TV?? From what I learned so far the difficulties are: [please also correct me on these] - stand is not included (need to buy that separately / do a wall mount) - hard to find a seller - prices are higher than for equivalent consumer TVs - brightness is higher -> more power consumption - there is no antenna (terre…

This is rather interesting. My biggest doubt is how many HDMI inputs they have and if it's possible to easily switch between them. But I'll definitely look into this kind of devices when it's time for me to update my current TV. (And no antenna input means the Italian law doesn't consider it a TV, so I can avoid the TV tax)

3 hdmi and a 1 displayport the one I have in front of me. It uses the same remote than the cheap domestic and hospitality ones.

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Post by mola »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #254
Nextgrid wrote: post #211

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I suspect that a large part of this ad- and marketing-driven economy is based on this. The reason they predict their revenue will go up (which it will, at least in the short term until the market adjusts) is because they have a lot of customers already lined up to pay them to show ads on their TVs. Those customers' marketing departments decided to pay money to include their ads on TVs because a similar process was fo…

The truth is noone buys anything from any ads... however brand awareness is a real thing. If you see a fancy ad from a company, they must be a profitable company that has a great product so you might be inclined to buy it or suggest it next time you're looking for this category of products.

Real as in has a real effect on consumers. NOT real as has being a significant predictor for quality of products.

We all know this, but we ignore it. Branding for brandings sake == lying to customers.

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Post by JohnBooty »

tolbish wrote: post #287
JohnBooty wrote: post #207

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Yet another example of the customer coming last. Unfortunately, it's worse than that. It's more like a case of the consumer coming first. The vast majority of consumers don't care about this. They're trying to get the biggest screen for the least money. And TV manufacturers are giving it to them. However, to remain price competitive with the other TVs on the shelf in WalMart, they need to rely on ad revenue. So, we g…

Not really. We are asking for TVs without internet access, but the market has decided for us.

"We" are a tiny minority.

The vast majority of people just don't care and want the most TV for the least money.

It's a "tyranny of the majority" kind of situation. For TV manufacturers, it's not worth catering to the tiny minority of customers who think like us.

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Post by hawski »

aembleton wrote: post #388
hawski wrote: post #373

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I bought a used projector some time ago. Couldn't be happier. I usually watch something after it's dark and I also have very good blinds. It probably warms up in similar, or better, time that many TVs boot up nowadays. I just have a Chromecast connected to a soundbar connected to the projector. VLC handles Chromecast, although somewhat buggy, so I can watch things from my computer in another room. Also Netflix experi…

What's a beamer? I thought you were talking about a BMW at first.

Another word for a projector.

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Post by everdrive »

izacus wrote: post #42
bleepblorp wrote: post #3

Just as the 's' in 'IoT' stands for 'security', the 'f' in 'IoT' stands for 'fairness to users.' Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection.

> Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection. This is a nice trite trope, but getting an affordable TV without these features might be nearly impossible for most people these days.

Then don't buy a TV.
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