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Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by harisund »

ordinaryperson wrote: post #311
Polylactic_acid wrote: post #305

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This seems to be the primary issue I see at work right now. People without kids are loving wfh and people with kids are struggling with distraction causing some of them to come back to the office just to work remotely with the rest of us.

I do not have kids and do not love WFH during lockdown. Simple things that would be a 30-second conversation in the office are now 30-minute Zoom meetings. Slack noise -- already a distractor to begin with -- has gone up 10x. If I have X hours at home or in the office I know exactly what limited amount of time I have to accomplish a task and can more easily allocate chunks of that time to specific needs. In lockdown…

I'm glad we are not co workers then. I would hate it if you decided that my time is not important and that whenever you walk over to my desk I should drop everything I'm doing to serve you.

As you can see, that goes both ways

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Post by scarface74 »

jedberg wrote: post #270
scarface74 wrote: post #259

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Also, taxes can be hard. I'm sure as remote working gets more popular, services will pop up to help with this and maybe laws will change, but right now, it's really hard to hire someone outside the US, and it's fairly complex to hire someone inside the US in state that you aren't already in. Inside the US is a solved problem. I haven't worked for a company in 20 years that did its own payroll. ADP, Insperity among ot…

It's absolutely not solved. I run a company with employees in multiple states. The payroll company takes care of some of the problems, but for example, every state has different rules about worker's comp. Most states require you to get your own, but you still have to let them know. Some states require you to buy into their state system, which requires signing up. Then there is corporate registration. Many states requ…

While that might be true. It has nothing to do with taxes....

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Post by jedberg »

scarface74 wrote: post #402
jedberg wrote: post #270

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It's absolutely not solved. I run a company with employees in multiple states. The payroll company takes care of some of the problems, but for example, every state has different rules about worker's comp. Most states require you to get your own, but you still have to let them know. Some states require you to buy into their state system, which requires signing up. Then there is corporate registration. Many states requ…

While that might be true. It has nothing to do with taxes....

My bill for Washington state worker’s compensation insurance scheme comes from their tax department and is labeled as a tax bill.

Filing state taxes requires your foreign corporate registration.

These are all things I had to do myself before payroll could process.

Sounds like taxes to me.

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Post by [deleted] »

ghaff wrote: post #102
moksly wrote: post #91

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They probably realise a home based workforce needs fewer bosses.

Why do you think that? If anything, managers can help better connect a more distributed workforce. (And those connections are one of the definite downsides of everyone being remote.)

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Re: Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by [deleted] »

ghaff wrote: post #102
moksly wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably realise a home based workforce needs fewer bosses.

Why do you think that? If anything, managers can help better connect a more distributed workforce. (And those connections are one of the definite downsides of everyone being remote.)

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Post by Loughla »

eanzenberg wrote: post #232
chrisco255 wrote: post #227

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People have been saying that now for almost two months. Georgia started to reopen April 24th. It's not registering in the data.

They’ll keep saying it all the way to November.

Are you really making a global pandemic into an american political issue? Seriously? How far in the sand is your head?

It's right there in the title global pandemic.

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Post by killjoywashere »

Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

The 1980s?! How progressive! I work for an institution that is culturally stuck in the 1950s.

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Post by ordinaryperson »

harisund wrote: post #401
ordinaryperson wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not have kids and do not love WFH during lockdown. Simple things that would be a 30-second conversation in the office are now 30-minute Zoom meetings. Slack noise -- already a distractor to begin with -- has gone up 10x. If I have X hours at home or in the office I know exactly what limited amount of time I have to accomplish a task and can more easily allocate chunks of that time to specific needs. In lockdown…

I'm glad we are not co workers then. I would hate it if you decided that my time is not important and that whenever you walk over to my desk I should drop everything I'm doing to serve you. As you can see, that goes both ways

Not really.

It's an office, not an isolation chamber. You have to work together.

That may be a frustrating concept for some -- from your comment it appears you only care about your work, you don't care if others' work is completed or the larger corporate objectives are met -- but that's why teamwork is so important.

Yes, it would be great if everyone could just singlestream on their own tasks but that's not how companies work. I'm sorry you find helping your coworkers to be such a frustration and distraction from your own personal achievements.

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Post by conanbatt »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #231
conanbatt wrote: post #65

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I've worked remotely most my life but as a new parent...I really want an office.

so you want an office to "escape" your family and daily life? It's sad but I would bet that's the case for a significant amount of parents and husbands.

Concentration work and being around a toddler are incompatible activities.

If you do wish to pay me to take care of my own kid I will certainly consider doing more of the latter and less of the former!

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