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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by dlannoye »

thomaslord wrote: post #239
the_af wrote: post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

Hello! Person who actively dislikes 4k here. In my experience: 1. No matter what operating system you're on, you'll eventually run into an application that doesn't render in high dpi mode. Depending on the OS that can mean it renders tiny, or that the whole things is super ugly and pixelated (WAY worse than on a native 1080p display) 2. If the 4k screen is on your laptop, good luck ever having a decent experience plu…

For #3, the creator of the i3 window manager is using the 8k monitor mentioned in the article I am pretty sure this is possible. https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2017-12-11-dell-up3218k/

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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kitsunesoba wrote: post #400
mulmen wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you manage multiple monitors with MacOS? I was doing this until recently and every single login involved rearranging my windows because MacOS moves them all to whatever display woke up first. In my experience MacOS multi-monitor support is effectively non-existent. Recently I picked up a 49” ultra-ultra wide monitor (basically 2x27” panels). It is one monitor but MacOS can’t drive it. They just don’t detect th…

>How do you manage multiple monitors with MacOS? I was doing this until recently and every single login involved rearranging my windows because MacOS moves them all to whatever display woke up first. At least for apps that are dedicated to one screen + virtual desktop, right click its icon in the dock and assign it to that display and workspace. Note that the effectiveness of window restoration also depends on the ma…

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by wtetzner »

dsabanin wrote: post #131
the_af wrote: post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

I love my 3 monitor setup. In 20 years of coding, I finally reached peak productivity in my workspace. No switching between windows, ease of throwing a window aside for monitoring, laying out information and tools side to side. It’s incredible once you readjust your habits and learn to use that new space. I compare it to having a large, wide desk when you’re working on something. Who wouldn’t want that? I was one of…

> Who wouldn’t want that?

I don't want that. There was a time when I used multiple monitors, but I've found that just working on a laptop works better for me. It's less distracting, and I find switching between windows to be both faster and less disorienting than turning my head to look at another monitor.

I can definitely understand other people preferring multiple monitors, but not everyone has the same preferences.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by cannam »

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by x3sphere »

I wouldn’t get a 4K display since most of them are still only 60Hz. Yeah, you don’t need a higher refresh rate to program but it makes daily desktop use SO much more pleasant for me.

There are some high refresh rate 4K 27”s but those are pretty expensive.

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Post by metafunctor »

alkonaut wrote: post #377

4K at 200% scaling feels wrong for a big monitor like a 27". The desktop looks like a 1080 desktop. And if the monitor is to be used as a gaming monitor too then 4K is again wrong because even with the best graphics cards, 4K@120 is out of reach. The perfect 27” monitor for me would be one that has 5K@120 because at 200% scale you’d get a desktop that looks “1440-size” and when gaming you can run half resolution at 1…

The LG UltraFine is a 27-inch 5K (5120 x 2880) IPS display. The maximum refresh rate is 60 Hz, so not the best for gaming; but it's designed for a Mac anyway. I've had a couple for over three years now and it's the best display for a Mac I know of, outside of Pro Display XDR, I suppose.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by young_unixer »

The monitor I want:

- 1440p

- IPS panel

- size between 23 and 27 inches, ideally 24 or 25

- flatscreen, 16:9, normal monitor, no "gamer" or other weird stuff.

- reasonably priced

I don't live in a rich country so there's not much variety. I got tired of searching for it. All monitors with more than 1080p I've found are either "gamer" (which cost 5x as much because of the gamer tax and other features useless to me, like 144hz, gsync and "3ms response times") type of monitors, curved screens, ultra wide screens, etc.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by TacoToni »

x3sphere wrote: post #405

I wouldn’t get a 4K display since most of them are still only 60Hz. Yeah, you don’t need a higher refresh rate to program but it makes daily desktop use SO much more pleasant for me. There are some high refresh rate 4K 27”s but those are pretty expensive.

Im personally waiting for a good 4k HDR > 60Hz monitor that is USB-C. Would be perfect for gaming and office use plugging in my Mac & PC.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Post by mcny »

huy-nguyen wrote: post #393
ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #388

Wow $2000 USD for a monitor? I thought I was pushing it yesterday when I got a new 27' monitor for $200. I don't think as programmers we need anything more than a 27' inch 1080p. What am I missing? I don't think it's worth the expense. On another note, that mustard yellow as the background color is an eyesore.

$200 is quite cheap for a 27” monitor. A good non-gaming 1440p 27” costs about $300-400 not on sale.

> $200 is quite cheap for a 27” monitor. A good non-gaming 1440p 27” costs about $300-400 not on sale.

I think grandparent post meant 1920x1080. Depending on your needs (no adaptive refresh rate, no color accuracy, only one HDMI input and one VGA input, no rotating stand, no vesa mount), you can get a 27" monitor for about USD 100. For most programmers, two 27" 1080p monitors ought to be sufficient.

I'm just amazed I never realized that a 27" 1080p monitor is barely over 80 pixels per inch. I'd imagine that doubles to a respectable 100+ ppi with 1440p monitors but I suspect it isn't worth paying more than twice the price in my context.

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