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Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

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Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#401
I am not sure how I feel about LinkedIn but I did want to expand on this:

> But one thing I am sure about: no one will notice.

LinkedIn remains one of the largest and best data sets for the recruiting industry. I don't want to speak too broadly since my experience is limited to my current employer and personal experience, but if you remove your LinkedIn you will effectively be invisible to the recruiting agency I work at.

Many companies rely on outbound recruiting tactics since inbound is often too noisy; not having a LinkedIn would dramatically reduce (if not eliminate) the chance of a recruiter finding you without prior contact (referral, application, former colleague, etc). And this is not just limited to recruiters reaching out via LinkedIn. There are companies that scrape LinkedIn and sell that data to recruiting agencies and VC's (and who knows who else).

As an anecdote, having recently complete a job search myself, I have to say that traditional inbound applications (e.g. apply via company website without any contacts) was shockingly ineffective. The difference in traction between self applications using my professional network, job boards, or recruiting markets (e.g. Triplebyte) was night and day.

Since the author seems privacy oriented, removing his LinkedIn is probably the right thing to do, but I don't think it's accurate to imply that there is no opportunity cost to doing so.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#402

From a professional standpoint LinkedIn gave me a lot of value for free so I'm mostly feeling positive about it, but I agree that like any social network it has downsides and can lead to psychological stress. Personally I live by the mantra that "scrolling is dangerous", i.e. I try to never interact with social media or news platforms that incite me to scroll down a feed of algorithmically curated news or updates, as…

I never visit LinkedIn except to update my profile (rare), or following a link in my email from either a message I feel I should reply to, or a job alert that actually interests me.

I...guess I knew there was a newsfeed, I just didn't know anyone actually looked at it.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#403
What led me to killing my LinkedIn account back then was the near constant email notification spamming of nothing. It just kept asking me whether I worked with some stranger over and over again. Notifications of no importance and no relevance to me is the same reason why I stopped using Facebook. Same company, but Instagram was way better for that reason alone.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#404
post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...it's like making a negative comment about your boss in public. That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. It's already daunting enough to see that I can't express my true self on places like FB for various reasons but now it's a factor when I'm applying for work? I think if it was voluntary, and for like a PR position…

>That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. Honestly, can you blame them in the current climate? If they can find something that is seriously questionable (I leave the definition of that to the reader), anyone else can too. And no company wants either internal dissent or an external PR hit because someone they hired ranted…

You're exactly right... In fact there is a girl on Twitter with a very large following (>800k) who spends all her time hunting down people on social media who have ever in their lives said anything that could be construed as "seriously questionable" (whose definition changes according to the times).

She's gotten incoming freshman kicked out of the colleges they were accepted to. Fired from their jobs. Businesses closed. Dozens and possibly hundreds of them. She's literally dedicated herself to destroying lives.

This is precisely why that although the 1st Amendment only specifically mentions government limits on laws regarding free speech, that free speech MUST ALSO be a cultural value that is protected and defended FIRST and the content of the speech judged SECOND.

People love to say "you are free to speak but we never said there's no consequences!!" as though that's some sort of ace in the hole. Well, sorry folks, but it isn't free speech if you are able to ensure I can never make a living for the rest of my life. The law generously limits what is illegal speech, and certain kinds of hate speech are included.

"I may disagree with every word you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" MUST be a social value for "free speech" and especially the 1st Amendment to have any meaning at all.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#405

This blog post comes off whiny and weak, with a tone of unearned moral and social superiority, all while making sweeping generalizations and false claims. The author used LI poorly, then complained publicly about being dissatisfied. I get that randoms invites and messages are annoying, but the inconvenience shouldn't outweigh the benefit from LI replacing resumes for professional branding.[1] The 1 page resume is an…

I completely disagree— reading this blog post, I come away with the sense that the author values genuine representation of who they are, and is frustrated with social networks' inadequacies in that regard. To their point, I doubt I'd be able to glean this kind of thing from anyone's LinkedIn profile. Speaking personally, the activity you're describing sounds like a major time sink, and doesn't align with the LinkedIn…

> Speaking personally, the activity you're describing sounds like a major time sink, and doesn't align with the LinkedIn experience of anyone I know.

Speaking personally, I spent much less time creating and updating my LI than creating and updating my resume in order to target specific jobs.

> It shouldn't fall on the shoulders of a social network's users to learn how to optimize their representation on that one website.

Agreed, but LI gives me the option to do so, and that is exactly what I do.

> To your credit, maybe you're getting contacted by well-off companies because they admire the effort and techniques you're using to boost your profile. If so, having everyone pour the same kind of effort into it would arguably help no one stand out, and only "add value" to the platform itself.

It wasn't much effort on my part.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#406
I got off LinkedIn years ago. I'm neither looking for work or hiring, so what's the point? They used to have a questions section, like Stack Overflow, but when they dumped that, there was nothing to do there.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#407
post #316

This blog post comes off whiny and weak, with a tone of unearned moral and social superiority, all while making sweeping generalizations and false claims. The author used LI poorly, then complained publicly about being dissatisfied. I get that randoms invites and messages are annoying, but the inconvenience shouldn't outweigh the benefit from LI replacing resumes for professional branding.[1] The 1 page resume is an…

I just got a job using my one-page resume. It looks almost the same as my LinkedIn profile. What’s the difference?

That's not the point. Resumes work today, but LI could work much better tomorrow.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#408

What led me to killing my LinkedIn account back then was the near constant email notification spamming of nothing. It just kept asking me whether I worked with some stranger over and over again. Notifications of no importance and no relevance to me is the same reason why I stopped using Facebook. Same company, but Instagram was way better for that reason alone.

You killed your LinkedIn account over the inability to silence email notifications? Its like a 4-click experience to turn them off so that seems a little bit of an overreaction no?

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#409
LinkedIn has its advantages and disadvantages. I would characterise it as a net positive for me, but it depends who you are, how you use it and what for.

Why net positive? For my second start-up, I found our first customer through LinkedIn. After lots of attempts to source a paying customer that led to no conversions, one day a message arrived saying "You're the only ones in Europe doing this. We want to work with you.". No networking, no clever lead generation, just being there being found in a search did the job.

Never used it for jobs because I got these all conference networking and by personal email exchances or being headhunted. It also gave me lots of speaking engagements.

Recently, LinkedIn has had some issues with too much Facebook-like noise (people posting non-professional content), so I think if there was a more focused, mininmalist alternative, lots of people may switch. There is also the question of potential conflict of interest: LI sells to HR/Hiring functions and to people that already work for companies that use it for these functions. So if I was you, I wouldn't apply via LI to any kind of job in case you'd like to keep that fact from your current employer's HR.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#410
post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this fascinating, as my experience is the opposite. I have hundreds of connections, mostly people I've met throughout my career. And yet, it has never actually delivered anything of value to me. A few potential freelancing gigs which didn't pan out. A lot of random encounters from people I would never want to work with. By contrast, StackOverflow and Twitter have given me some really great work opportunities.

Is there a good way to search twitter for jobs?

I don't think it's so much "searching twitter for jobs" as having a good professional network that twitter can help maintain connections with (but not passively).
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