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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by evanb »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #165
iso1631 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the US a federated country? Surely it's up to the local police to ask for help from other police if they wish to, and then perhaps ask for help from the national guard, not the other way round? And isn't it state governors who control the national guard, not the Federal president? I assume the Waco types will be out there opposing "The Feds" trampling over state rights?

The US has a federal system, but people are guaranteed basic rights within it. If the local government can’t or won’t protect those rights (the police abandoned one of their five precincts to the looters!), the feds have the right and duty to step in.

Posse Commitatus prevents the military from performing law-enforcement duties. The _governor_ can activate the national guard for cases like this.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by jcranmer »

dfxm12 wrote: post #362
paulgb wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. One way to look at this is that that's exactly what Twitter has started doing. The president violated the TOS, and got the treatment prescribed under the TOS. His EO yesterday essentially asked for everyone to be treated in accordance with the TOS, so he's (ironically) getting exactly what he asked for. It remains to be seen whether, in complian…

Wait, Trump, the guy who had a platform plank complaining about his predecessors' use of executive orders as "power grabs" [0], actually issued an executive order about Twitter's TOS ? 0 - https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-19/trump-...

Don't worry... he also criticized Obama for golfing too much, and has gone golfing more frequently than Obama.

And Senate Republicans have openly asked judges to resign so they can be replaced by conservative judges, and their justification for why it's okay to do this so close to an election but it wasn't okay to confirm Garland so close to an election literally amounts to "Obama's a Democrat, Trump's a Republican."

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by ImprobableTruth »

phailhaus wrote: post #396
formalsystem wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1266340243134963712 EDIT: Scroll down a bit, the original poster made their account private a few moments ago

Whatever tweet he retweeted, it's now unavailable. Looks like Twitter's moderation policies are working as expected.

They protected their tweets.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by wmkn »

jtbayly wrote: post #383
partiallypro wrote: post #333

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

I'm just going to say again that I can't for the life of me understand why people are in agreement that this tweet glorifies violence. It is a call to stop being violent lest violence increase. Looting always leads to shooting. This is a simple fact. I'm horrified that so many people think me saying that is glorifying violence. I don't understand it in the slightest. Seeing this tweet by Trump get silenced absolutely…

Because the exact phrase has historical context [1] in a sense of: if you loot, we shoot. Clearly it wasn’t said in a sense of: looting inevitably leads to violence.

That makes it sound like Trump used it in a similar fashion.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/where-does-phrase-...

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by enraged_camel »

jacquesm wrote: post #51
doublesCs wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

People in the United States do not vote for a president. They vote for an elector who in turn will vote for the president. This is an important and often left out detail in how the American political system works, in theory it could have protected us from the current dumpster fire.

This is a really, really bad take, along the same lines as "the US is not a democracy, it is a republic!"

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by dnissley »

phailhaus wrote: post #396
formalsystem wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1266340243134963712 EDIT: Scroll down a bit, the original poster made their account private a few moments ago

Whatever tweet he retweeted, it's now unavailable. Looks like Twitter's moderation policies are working as expected.

She just made her tweets private is why that's happening

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by chooseaname »

peacelilly wrote: post #391

It's long past time to regulate social media like a phone company, natural monopoly, or common carrier. The DOJ needs to break them up for violating the public trust, then limit their ability to refuse service to law abiding citizens moving into the future. Government has every right to force companies to be neutral platforms through regulation. It's time to revoke/enforce section 230, especially the "good faith" cla…

> The DOJ needs to break them up for violating the public trust...

Twitter, Facebook, et al are entertainment. There's not trust to violate.

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Post by th0ma5 »

peacelilly wrote: post #391

It's long past time to regulate social media like a phone company, natural monopoly, or common carrier. The DOJ needs to break them up for violating the public trust, then limit their ability to refuse service to law abiding citizens moving into the future. Government has every right to force companies to be neutral platforms through regulation. It's time to revoke/enforce section 230, especially the "good faith" cla…

I feel you almost were able to lawyer your way to something coherent, but ultimately, you are advocating for government regulation of speech, IMHO.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by sangnoir »

lostmsu wrote: post #339
crazygringo wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence. Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation , is lawful. But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful. I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exact…

Wasn't Trump referring to stand your ground laws?

Minnesota does not have stand your ground laws. Instead, they have duty to retreat laws (basically, you can use deadly force to protect your life, not property).
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