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Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by userbinator »

criley2 wrote: post #260
scarface74 wrote: post #248

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So if emulation or a VM is your go to. How is that any different than what yuh can do with older versions of MacOS?

Virtualizating Windows isn't very hard, even back to something like Windows 95. On the other hand, only OSX 10.7+ are really easy to run in a VM, and .5 and .6 only work for servers, and anything before 10.5 isn't really going to be compatible with virtualization. That's 2007, so OSX lets you virtualize back about 13 years, and Windows you can go back almost 30 years. People even have Win 3.1 running in VMware. This…

10.4 x86, the origins of Hackintosh, will be the first version that's actually practical to virtualise.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by SyneRyder »

vraivroo wrote: post #279
wolco wrote: post #224

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You would just edit the html pages lol. I still use dreamweaver for the visual editor if I need to copy and paste from a pdf and want perfect html. No one has made anything like it. No current editor has a quick sftp that allows you to connect/edit move on.

Coda does.

As does HTMLPad 2020, the closest I've found to a Coda clone on Windows. (It's not as good as Coda but it gets the job done.)

That said, neither app has the WYSIWYG editing that DreamWeaver had. But I've always preferred to hand ode my HTML anyway.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by type0 »

boublepop wrote: post #358
geocrasher wrote: post #90

These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

> build a static HTML page. No way in hell today’s HTML will survive 25 years now that google owns it, browsers will literally crash due to lack of user tracking. Best just host a static txt file.

Nah, the next iteration would be called GHTML, it will include fact checking by Google AI and Google Analytics by default, all for free. Everyone will use it otherwise Chrome will give you strange security errors and after all you wouldn't want to use the web that is full of fake news and other content that can be offensive to someone. /s

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by zeitg3ist »

dbalatero wrote: post #19

My favorite like this site is http://www.burger.com - this dude has a hilarious array of hobbies and awesome beveled button links.

To this day I still visit www.scaruffi.com to read his opinions about music - the layout hasn’t changed since the 90s or even the 80s for some pages.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by tylerjwilk00 »

geocrasher wrote: post #90

These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

To be fair keeping around an old runtime of FrontPage isn't much different than keep around an old runtime of PHP.

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Post by cptskippy »

scarface74 wrote: post #378
zamalek wrote: post #357

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There's always a person who is happy to explain how Apple bests any competitor you could mention at any metric you could imagine.

So if Apple kept “25 years” of backwards compatibility, should they have been better off bundling a 68K and PPC emulator? Why stop there? They should have kept compatibility with the Apple //e and also bundled a 68K emulator? Someone else was complaining that they didn’t keep FireWire. Should modern Macs come with ADB ports?

I have a Windows 10 PC with a PCI (not express) slot that I installed a Firewire card in last year to use 15 year old software still available from Sony's website to rip a stack of Digital8 home movies.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by scarface74 »

cptskippy wrote: post #406
scarface74 wrote: post #378

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So if Apple kept “25 years” of backwards compatibility, should they have been better off bundling a 68K and PPC emulator? Why stop there? They should have kept compatibility with the Apple //e and also bundled a 68K emulator? Someone else was complaining that they didn’t keep FireWire. Should modern Macs come with ADB ports?

I have a Windows 10 PC with a PCI (not express) slot that I installed a Firewire card in last year to use 15 year old software still available from Sony's website to rip a stack of Digital8 home movies.

And Apple has sold a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter for years.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD464LL/A/apple-thunderbo...

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by giantrobot »

jimhi wrote: post #363
giantrobot wrote: post #273

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If you haven't been keeping the WP back end up to date it's not functionality that's a problem it is security. Unpatched WordPress installs account for a huge portion of malware distribution. There's a number of exploits that allow attackers to upload files to your server. So they upload malicious payloads that exploits then download to infected systems.

Most of those exploits are from plugins. If they aren’t using those they can also change the default login url. Also Wordpress lets you export and reimport to current versions without coding. I think it’s one the best future proof platforms, most of the web still runs on it.

Many WordPress exploits are in plug-ins but there's still plenty in the base install (over multiple versions).

Also suggesting that "most of the web" runs on WordPress is a bit absurd. WordPress accounts for a huge portion of spam-y SEO blogs and other outright noise on the web. It's popular no doubt but definitely not most of the web.

It's popularity and porous security is a big problem as it's such a huge malware delivery vector. Everything from worm payloads to JavaScript crypto miners is served up from millions of exploited WordPress installs.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by catalogia »

scarface74 wrote: post #378
zamalek wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's always a person who is happy to explain how Apple bests any competitor you could mention at any metric you could imagine.

So if Apple kept “25 years” of backwards compatibility, should they have been better off bundling a 68K and PPC emulator? Why stop there? They should have kept compatibility with the Apple //e and also bundled a 68K emulator? Someone else was complaining that they didn’t keep FireWire. Should modern Macs come with ADB ports?

> So if Apple kept “25 years” of backwards compatibility, should they have been better off bundling a 68K and PPC emulator? Why stop there? They should have kept compatibility with the Apple //e and also bundled a 68K emulator?

I don't think it's unreasonable that Apple hasn't done so, but neither do I think doing so would be unreasonable. Archive.org can emulate Apple II's in your browser, I'm sure Apple could add an equivalent feature to MacOS if that were something they cared to do. They obviously don't, and that's their prerogative.

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