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Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Ehhh this article is half bullshit half true. But in its entirety you can see the problems black people face in America, these problems aren’t fixed in some mumbo jumbo feel good mentor program. For any Africans reading this will be very informative to you. Basically after being stolen and forced to work for free or die for 400+ years, black people faced STATE sponsored oppression and terrorism. Centuries of terrorism by violent whites mob beating, bombing , shooting etc black women, men and children alike. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/26/lynchings-me.... At the same time complete segregation in society , as you can imagine there is practically no upper movement for majority of blacks during this time . They went to worst schools, worst universities, every single thing was better for a white person than it was for a black person you virtually couldn’t do anything at all. Not to mention that segregation ended ONLY 56 years ago ! Also, don’t forget this is all STATE SPONSORED. Now fast forward a little bit and you have state sponsored red lining . For those who aren’t aware red lining is basically black people denied financial and medical services. Basically a bank would draw a line on a map and deny anyone living above that line a loan (obviously those above that line were blacks) . They would loan to a lower income white rather than a middle income or high income black . There was also predatory reverse redlining where banks would go into black areas and lend at higher interests rates etc . Common sense could tell you what the impact of these government programs of oppression have been. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining Fast forward a little more and you have the US industrial prison complex , and the Richard Nixon’s “war on drugs” which devastated the black community . Read this to learn more and for pretty graphs. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/the-shocking-and-sickening-st.... Now you bottle this all up with terribly under funded schools, racism , unfair portrayal in media and films I can go on and on . How the fuck is a mentor going to help? This article is stupid feel good shit, if the US wanted to help it’s citizens they forcefully brought from Africa centuries ago they would have done so by now, they don’t have the intentions and instead have repeatedly shown they will support programs of oppression. You want to give black people a fair chance build some schools, give them funding , hire competent teachers , remove the drug dealers and gang leaders you allow to run rampant the same way you remove leaders of countries or hunt down taliban leaders in remote deserts. This is the reality of the situation all of you Asians, whites , Indians etc comparing your situation is absolutely positively completely unrelatable.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Ehhh this article is half bullshit half true. But in its entirety you can see the problems black people face in America, these problems aren’t fixed in some mumbo jumbo feel good mentor program. For any Africans reading this will be very informative to you. Basically after being stolen and forced to work for free or die for 400+ years, black people faced STATE sponsored oppression and terrorism. Centuries of terroris…

How about you reply to comment instead of flagging it cowards.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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> They weren't really allowed viable property access until the last 50 years or so. 100's of years of catch up to make up for. You don’t need property ownership to have a decent upbringing. It does mean there isn’t a lot of generational wealth to go around, but that’s no longer specific to being black because it applies to huge swaths of the population.

Yes, but if you're comparing black performance to the performance of other races - you can't leave wealth accumulation out of the picture. Sure, there are plenty of poor people who are white, but when you are looking at aggregate statistics, the gap is extremely clear. In my city, Boston, the average household wealth of a white family (excluding the value of the home) is $200,000. The average household wealth of a bl…

The study doesn't exclude the value of the home. In fact, most of the net worth disparity is attributable to home ownership.

Total Assets: White: $256,500 | U.S. Black: $700

Liquid Assets: White: $25,000 | U.S. Black: $670

Net Worth: White: $247,500 | U.S. Black: $8

Some definitions:

>Liquid assets, which can quickly be converted into cash, include money 18 in savings and checking accounts, stocks, money market, and government bonds.

>We totaled the value of all assets held by each racial group, including the value of all liquid assets, financial assets, retirement, home and vehicle equity, and the values of all other assets (these include life insurance policies and valuables such as jewelry)

>Net worth (or wealth), the sum of the value of total assets minus the value of debts, provides a snapshot of household financial well-being.

From this PDF: https://www.bostonfed.org/-/media/Documents/color-of-wealth/...

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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I think Boondocks, a cartoon about black boys that was written and drawn by a black boy, most accurately illustrates (pun!) the desired solution for black mentorship. Grandpa Robert Freeman literally fills this role for his two grandkids, especially with Riley. Uncle Ruckus offers an even better example. Maybe we should look to this show for guidance on the issue.

Uncle Ruckus is not a role model (to borrow from Charles Barkley)

On that, we disagree.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Asians dating white people may come less from seeing other Asians as inferior, but from a desire to escape their own cultural trappings. Depending on how conservative (traditional) the family is, many Asian women I know prefer dating non-Asian men because it doesn't come with the same expectations from their family. They can escape the make babies, make money, deal with a mother-in-law pressures, which may be much hi…

This is not true. First of all if this were true you'd see tons of asian men dating white women to escape the cultural pressure. You don't see this at all, the phenomenon is largely among women. Second of all, the pressures you describe are a bit exaggerated. The whole mother-in-law, make money and make baby deal is not very common at all. It exists and is more common among asians than westerners but it is still very…

Women have far more pressures than men, especially Asian cultures in comparison to modern western cultures.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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This is not true. First of all if this were true you'd see tons of asian men dating white women to escape the cultural pressure. You don't see this at all, the phenomenon is largely among women. Second of all, the pressures you describe are a bit exaggerated. The whole mother-in-law, make money and make baby deal is not very common at all. It exists and is more common among asians than westerners but it is still very…

Women have far more pressures than men, especially Asian cultures in comparison to modern western cultures.

This has largely been eliminated in modern Asian cultures. Even among women.

Again I would say there's more of this type of stuff still happening among asians but it's a very small minority.

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