Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

When will Google shut down Stadia?

stadiacountdown.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

401–410 of 662 posts

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#401

Post by anshul008 »

marricks wrote: post #112
iamsb wrote: post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

I wonder about the damage Google does to any potential start ups in a field. How much buzz can you get when everyone’s first thought is “how could this be any good? Google already tried that and failed...”

The criteria for failure at Google is very different from that for a startup.

For eg. Allo was considered a failure because it had 'only' 10 million DAU in first 8 months. For a startup that would be like hitting a jackpot.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#402

Post by lonelappde »

mmanfrin wrote: post #202
40acres wrote: post #174

I understand the cynicism of this community to Stadia but implore you all to think a little broader. Stadia is different, with this product Google is trying something really innovative. For one, the fact that Stadia actually costs money should be a signal of Google's long term ambition here. Yes, Fiber also cost money but was bogged down by the hell that is infrastructure development. Stadia will require a substantia…

Glass cost money, more than 10x what this cost, and that was not a signal of their long term ambition. The problem with Stadia is that it costs money, the service costs a monthly fee, and on top of it you have to buy the games. What happens to those games if you stop paying the fee? If you stop using Stadia? If Google deprecates Stadia like many are worried. I'll tell you: you lose the game. If I, conversely, buy the…

7 years later, Glass is still a successful product for its users.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#403

Post by eitland »

iamsb wrote: post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

idlewords did something similar with pinboard.in, only

1. It was Yahoo (del.icio.us) not Google and

2. I think he didn't start until at a later stage.

(I'm an happy early user of pinboard.in)

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#404

Post by xtracto »

pm90 wrote: post #145
uncletaco wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard that Facebook and Google collect engineers and let them do whatever because its better than them being productive at a competitor.

Textbook anti competitive behavior. Google needs to be broken up.

Yeah, let´s break Google into a bunch of smaller companies, all managed by Alphabet.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#405

Post by smush »

ungzd wrote: post #232
tempsy wrote: post #38

What is going on with Google? I used to think Google had the best product team in the world. In some ways I thought they defined what modern product management is/was. Now I have no clue what they are thinking with their product launches as of late. All of their products (and marketing) invoke this conservative, risk-adverse blandness that tries to appeal to everyone and in turn appeals to no one.

Not only Google, I can't remember any recent internet/web/mobile/computing consumer product I was excited about. Everything is either "meh, seen that already many times" or "nasty thing that's going to exploit users".

It's probably the HN filter bubble, but I feel similarly. I am excited about the return of 'dead' formats like landscape slider Android phones (Fxtec Pro1) or 'open source' hardware (PineBook/Phone/Time), but for most of the big companies out there, not much is new under the sun.

I could be wrong, but this reminds me a lot of 2006 or so when smartphones existed but were mostly Blackberry / Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PCs. We were ripe for a technology revolution but didn't know it at the time.

Either that or we are progressively turning into grumpy old people who don't like new technology?

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#406

Post by WorldMaker »

pytester wrote: post #261
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No traction" for a Google product just means it's not the next Search or Gmail. It doesn't mean that zero people use it. Thousands or millions of people used Hangouts, Google Reader, Google Code, or Picasa - they'd have been considered big YC successes. If big YC companies all got shut down if they failed to turn into another letter in the FAANG acronym, maybe people would become reluctant to use services from YC co…

>Thousands or millions of people used Hangouts, Google Reader, Google Code, or Picasa - they'd have been considered big YC successes. Other than google reader I doubt any of these would have gotten traction at all without big g behind them.

Picasa: Smug Mug/Flickr is rather highly valuated again today, now that they are free of the curse of Yahoo! Instagram and Snapchat are a part of this game now too.

Google Code: GitHub sold to Microsoft for a good chunk of change. GitLab, Bitbucket, Source Hut, all seem to be doing fine.

Hangouts: Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, WeChat, Facebook Portal, Matrix/Riot.im, iMessage, Skype is maybe back from the dead depending on who you ask (certainly not kids, though). It's almost easier to ask who isn't in the Messenger game right now. The fact that Google managed to fumble two huge market share leads between Google Talk and Hangouts is maybe only equaled by Microsoft's multiple, complicated fumbles of MSN Messenger and Skype.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#407

Post by helen___keller »

spuz wrote: post #375
helen___keller wrote: post #315

After all the bad PR I decided to sit down, put aside emotions, and honestly evaluate with myself how I felt about Stadia as a video gamer. I realized that I actually would really like video game streaming. It would be really neat to pop open whatever game I'm playing on a tv in another room, or on a chromebook or some other non-gaming device. The problem is Stadia also wants to control the game library and the hardw…

I don't see what you've said as a criticism of Stadia. Stadia was never meant to do what you want and never claimed to either. I personally would rather Google managed my game library because I can't be bothered to download a 10gb game only to play it for 10mins before deleting it. If Google can let me jump in and out easily then it will make discovery much easier for me.

It wasn't intended to be a criticism, more of just an evaluation of why I'm personally not interested in it. I like the concept of streaming, just not the bundled steam and the bundled cloud compute.

If I could run Stadia with a game installed locally on my LAN in addition to content from the internet (like how chromecast works) I would give it a try, maybe buy a TV for my bedroom which is currently devoid of technology save an iPad.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#408

Post by SkyBelow »

thebokehwokeh2 wrote: post #352
pm90 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Textbook anti competitive behavior. Google needs to be broken up.

When people say this, what exactly does this mean? If you break Google up into Gmail, Search, Calendar, etc... what stops those from within, who have intimate knowledge of the innerworkings and HR related matters within Alphabet as a whole, from simply secretly colluding and sharing resources off the books?

You mean other than the laws that were used to break them up?

Generally, just because someone may find a way around a law is not a justified reason for not having the law.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#409

Post by chihuahua »

adamzapasnik wrote: post #193
ProAm wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cant rely on Google for anything long term.

Isn't it subscription based service anyway? Probably by the time they canceled the project, there would be a competition that you can move to.

but then you have wasted $60 for each game that you have "bought" for Stadia

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#410

Post by lonelappde »

AlexandrB wrote: post #361
heywoods wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I can help answer your question, but just watching the keynote will be best. https://youtu.be/hl-Y1QVhmcM . The tl;dr of the whole keynote is what's different about Google's attempt at 'Cloud Gaming' is their ability to leverage their infrastructure. Outside of Amazon and Microsoft I don't know of another company that will be able to match the latency and computation requirements to make this all work as mark…

> What is different with Google's attempt at 'Cloud Gaming' is their ability to leverage their infrastructure. That's not innovation, it's just having a bigger stick than the other guy.

Yes,we know, nothing remotely similar to anything else is innovation. Airplanes are just bicycles with bolted on wings.
Post reply on HN