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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Is it a joyous experience when you have to wait 1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive? How about when your consumer grade touch panel dies from heat and vibration?

Don't know, my experience has directly contradicted this popular narrative. I think, perhaps, these experiences are less frequent than public outlets suggest.

Tesla owner since 2015 here. We don't even have a service center here in the Boise, Idaho area (closest one is Salt Lake) just Mobile Techs. Had always had great service experience with our Model X and 3 (sold the S for the newer tech on the Model 3). They show up on our driveway after I schedule service on the app.

We now have two technicians because of the influx of new owners, which is surprising to me since Boise is not exactly a major city.

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The powertrain is more powerful and more efficient than any other in its class. A lot of people don't care about paint or trivial fit 'n finish stuff.

You can get a Chevy Bolt with perfect fit and finish! 100% of Tesla 3 owners would get an "S" if only they could afford it.

S is a different body size entirely, and Model 3 has some more advanced tech (e.g. more power-efficient) until S refreshed. 3 is actually cannibalizing S sales.

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Tesla 3 owner here. Beyond tapping up / down temperature arrows I don't ever need to touch my A/C settings and it remembers my settings when I pick my profile (and soon it will recognize me automatically) so I think it's less annoying than analog setup personally.

Having to fiddle with a touch screen to manage windshield wipers is unnecessary.

The wipers wipe automatically when the camera detects rain on the windshield. If you want to do a window clean you just push the button on the end of the blinker handle on the left of the steering wheel. It's one of the few physical buttons of the 3.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Tesla 3 owner here. Beyond tapping up / down temperature arrows I don't ever need to touch my A/C settings and it remembers my settings when I pick my profile (and soon it will recognize me automatically) so I think it's less annoying than analog setup personally.

Tesla owners are known to be willing put up with things other car owners aren't. I don't want to fool around with a touchscreen in traffic.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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No one else will adopt Tesla's standard. You're avoiding the question rather than answering it. CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today. When will Tesla reciprocate and convert to CCS?

Take a step back and listen to yourself. > No one else will adopt Tesla's standard. Why won't they? They don't have to pay any licensing fees and would save $$ on R&D. > CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today. Because Tesla have chosen to adapt it or at least provide Tesla owners an adaptor for CCS/ChadeMo. Why can't others do the same for the SuperCharger network? Give me a good reason…

All manufacturers should converge, and the most common standard now is CCS so logically and practically that's what should be used.

It's fine for Tesla's to use adapters, but it would be better to just accept the reality that the timing didn't work out and join the group rather than waiting for the group to change (which at this point won't ever happen).

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It occurs to me that I would equate Mac to Tesla and Linux to a car in which you get full access to the engine and are able to change any piece you want. Tesla is the opposite of Linux philosophy.

ALL cars sold today are the opposite of the linux philosophy

How?? You can service your own car unless you're looking at something ridiculous like a Bugatti or Mclaren. You can modify them to any legal extent.

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Tesla 3 owner here. Beyond tapping up / down temperature arrows I don't ever need to touch my A/C settings and it remembers my settings when I pick my profile (and soon it will recognize me automatically) so I think it's less annoying than analog setup personally.

Tesla owners are known to be willing put up with things other car owners aren't. I don't want to fool around with a touchscreen in traffic.

You can use the steering wheel and scroll up or down and you changed the temperature. No fooling around with touchscreen in traffic. It’s way better than any analog system I’ve used across Jeep’s and Audi’s.

You can control temperature, fan speed, brightness, and more all from the steering wheel.

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I DID and I still don't understand. It's especially obnoxious from Tesla owner to think that if we try it we will automatically think alike.

Then you don't like it? Cool! It's not the end of the world I promise. You can still buy whatever car you want. Why don't you let people buy what they please with their hard earned money?

That's nothing like what they said. They are not telling people what to buy. They are trying to understand the willingness of many Tesla owners to brush off being misled and ignored by the manufacturer of their car, and to do things like you just did.

I own a P100D and the magic wore off for me. Apparently it hasn't for you.

Peace.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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The powertrain is more powerful and more efficient than any other in its class. A lot of people don't care about paint or trivial fit 'n finish stuff.

You can get a Chevy Bolt with perfect fit and finish! 100% of Tesla 3 owners would get an "S" if only they could afford it.

I had an S and traded it in for a Model 3. I ended up liking the Model 3 more since it's much more nimble and gets the latest software updates. The S was nice, but felt like I'm driving a boat.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

The issues are relatively minor in the grand scheme of the user experience of the car. They're also easily dismissed because of the regular updates that Tesla puts out like this one (addressed complaints like Bluetooth and Spotify). People would be more frustrated with software issues from another car maker because it would mean waiting longer for a fix and going in to a dealership to get the update.

Do you own a Tesla? Do you feel that autopilot has improved?

And the nag / inability to sense the presence of hands on wheel... to put it mildly, I would pay a lot of money to revert my AP software.

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