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Re: Facebook Dating

#401
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This seems like something they should have added ten plus years ago, when their demo was primarily college kids. I know many people who were clamoring for it at the time. It would have been an obvious addition as dating and relationships were a large part of the reason a lot of people used Facebook. I half suspect this is an attempt to pull college kids back into Facebook. I think they missed their chance with this b…

I disagree.

Do you know how hard it is to meet new people after the age of 25? The statistics, historically, are not in your favor!

Dating and social apps have made it far easier for busy people, who lack 8 hours a day to socialize with others on a campus/forum, to organize dinner, dates, etc.

Re: Facebook Dating

#402
post #195

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The whole Maven / Damore stuff at Google shows the strengths and weaknesses of this “one persona” approach. People in Silicon Valley bring their entire selves to work, they protest their own company when they feel it is not having properly, there’s something to admire about that but most people elsewhere are happy to keep work at work and not get too worked up about what their company is or isn’t doing.

> People in Silicon Valley This has got to be an over generalisation, surely? People in Silicon Valley are highly unlikely to be a homogenous whole. And given what we know about Gell-Mann Amnesia, it seems likely to me the media’s portrayal of the situation is, at best, amiss, and, at worst, intentionally deceptive. Probably that a vocal minority generate a kerfuffle, and a huge majority keep mum. Happy to be proven…

Women are shorter than men; some women are 7 feet tall.

Re: Facebook Dating

#403

I think this might be a (relatively) rare strategy error for Facebook. If the success of Snapchat, LinkedIn, and also the separate WhatsApp/Instagram properties proves anything, it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large. If I was facebook, I would very explicitly announce this as a spin out project, under a diff…

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

It looks like the Dating profile is separate from your main facebook profile (see the announcement). But that might not give you much comfort since they're still both under the facebook umbrella.

Re: Facebook Dating

#404
post #402

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> People in Silicon Valley This has got to be an over generalisation, surely? People in Silicon Valley are highly unlikely to be a homogenous whole. And given what we know about Gell-Mann Amnesia, it seems likely to me the media’s portrayal of the situation is, at best, amiss, and, at worst, intentionally deceptive. Probably that a vocal minority generate a kerfuffle, and a huge majority keep mum. Happy to be proven…

Women are shorter than men; some women are 7 feet tall.

Not sure I follow you?

Re: Facebook Dating

#405
post #254

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It wouldnt be as big a deal, had facebook started as your "public" identity, like linkedin. But instead everybody who signed up 10 years ago was using it as their "private identity with a couple friends."

I'm glad it's not just me. I've pretty much abandoned my facebook account because it's full of all my stupid high school personal stuff, and doesn't really feel relevant any more. Yesterday a colleague had me link a third-party application to a business-related page using my personal account, and it felt like a huge invasion of my personal sphere to have pages for a band I was in ten years ago appear on the list next…

> Do social media workers have some kind of strategy for managing their public and private identities?

Got me, I'm a social media refusenik. I have only encountered one third party application for work that was lazy and broken enough to require FB login, and I made up a throwaway account specifically for it. (I also had to remove all the 127.0.0.1 entries for FB names in /etc/hosts, but that's different.)

Does doing that feel disingenuous to you because of Facebook's expectations, or a different reason?

(I personally have zero problems with lying to FB, given that FB routinely and consistently lies to the rest of the world in order to decrease others' ability to not do business with them.)

Re: Facebook Dating

#406
Yup, great idea! Cue the 'calling out' posts, the bitter posts when it does not work out, the wackos of all ages, and a new culture of publicly describing your personal life in a new reality TV-like, shameless manner.

Some years back a nephew (who was about 18 then), had a public back and forth with his girlfriend while their many friends Liked each post like two teams.

Let's bring the hyperreality to dating. I won't participate but I'll surely be watching the results.

Re: Facebook Dating

#407

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> Younger generation are way more open about their dating life than us. They openly talk about their dating life at work or friends group. They don't mind getting matched with a coworker or classmate. Being young and LGBTQIA+, I can assure you that I never discuss my dating life at work or with my relatives (none of whom know I'm gay, but thankfully, I don't live with them anymore). Until there are strict federal ant…

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Do you have a problem with the diversity of queer identities?

I personally think it's a good thing, because language can empower individuals with many words with which to express themselves, rather than just a handful of boolean values (Are you gay or straight? Are you male or female?).

Being gay to me might not be quite the same thing as being gay to someone else. There's multiple facets at play here, and many are entire spectra.

Comedians like Dave Chappelle aren't trying to speak the truth. They're either reinforcing cognitive biases to build rapport with their audience or subverting them to elicit a laugh. Usually one followed by the other.

Personally, I find the idea that the whole breadth of depth of anyone's identity can be compressed in 3 or fewer bits of information to be, frankly, dehumanizing. Even if you're a cisgender, allosexual, heterosexual man.

Re: Facebook Dating

#408

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> My little brother is 16 and I know he won't use this because no one he knows uses Facebook. Is this really true? I heard from someone at Facebook that while teenagers say they don't use Facebook, if you look at the stats, they definitely do.

Very true in my experience. While many (maybe 60%) still have an account, they basically do nothing with it. If you're a Facebook employee you may see that number of signups number and go "yeah they are using it" but the amount of use is VERY different from what I can tell. Generally I'm very in agreement with the parent: The older won't want to use Facebook for dating, the younger would never look to Facebook. That…

> number of signups

Definitely not. DAU and MAU are what they base their user numbers and big milestones on

Re: Facebook Dating

#409
post #239

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Wait, are you saying that Tinder will show you accounts that you've swiped left on at a later date? I have not found that to be the case.

Yes, I've personally seen memorable profiles come back later. It's one way to make the app seem busier with more people.

Mmm, I wonder if this is because the user you’re seeing is using the “Show my profile first to everyone” paid feature?

Re: Facebook Dating

#410

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Very true in my experience. While many (maybe 60%) still have an account, they basically do nothing with it. If you're a Facebook employee you may see that number of signups number and go "yeah they are using it" but the amount of use is VERY different from what I can tell. Generally I'm very in agreement with the parent: The older won't want to use Facebook for dating, the younger would never look to Facebook. That…

> number of signups Definitely not. DAU and MAU are what they base their user numbers and big milestones on

Wrong verbiage, point still stands. Probably a decent number of MAU on Facebook in that range but logging in and checking one thing twice a month is a big usage difference from daily or semi daily sessions that last for minutes, not seconds.
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