Congrats and all. But the app still sucks. Since last update, on windows, randomly quits but leaves an invisible process behing consuming 25% cpu. Changing organizations the first time in the day takes ages (imagine when you have a dozen).
Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
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Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
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Why does anyone use the app instead of the site?
Using lots of browser tabs instead of applications appears to me to be a step backward in usability. Instead of relying on the window manager to organise your work, you add cognitive load instead.
Eh, you can just put Slack into it's own window if you're going to use multiple tabs for it. Personally, I just pin it next to my email and it works fine.
I'm not a fan of how much RAM or CPU it uses. I tried the desktop app hoping it would be better, but it seems like it's perhaps worse (I use Firefox, so
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#403Congratulation to them. I think what they did is absolutely amazing and will be seen retrospectively as one of the biggest fads of history. - They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. - They managed to change chat from a set of open protocols to a single closed app terribly written in JS. - They managed to make a lo…
> They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. I experience quite the opposite. With in-person communication, people barge in, demand you drop what you're doing now and answer their question/conversation. With slack, you can answer them when you need a break or have finished something up.
You must not have someone who sends you a slack message and them come over to your desk to ask if you read their slack message.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. I experience quite the opposite. With in-person communication, people barge in, demand you drop what you're doing now and answer their question/conversation. With slack, you can answer them when you need a break or have finished something up.
Isn't what you are describing the de-facto use case of email?
No, on Slack (or any other similar chat) I can jump in and answer a co-worker that had a question when I'm available, if they are also available they reply and we have a short convo that takes much less time than e-mailing back and forth which usually ends with a "let's talk this in person".
Having realtime chat has saved me countless hours of participating in e-mail threads that end nowhere, at the same time as helping me be less interrupted as I tell people to send me a message first and if it's really urgent to interrupt me.
I don't care about Slack as a company but I'm happy that a IRC-like chat ended up in the mainstream and is useful for my day-to-day.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
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Their moat is sticky enough and they know it. They can decide what verticals they want to compete it, but their company mission to make business-communication more effective is still as open a field as it was when they were founded. They may have to acquire their Instagram equivalent some time in the future, but I can easily imagine that their Enterprise Customers are here to stay.
The enterprise customers are the least likely to stay. What happens when Microsoft Teams gets “good enough” and it’s already given away with the Office subscription that most enterprise customers have and it integrates with Microsoft’s other options. Look no further than YC darling Dropbox. For the same price you pay for Dropbox, you can get the entire Microsoft Office suite plus 6 TB of storage.
> What happens when Microsoft Teams gets “good enough”
Or Salesforce Chatter. Enough companies handing Salesforce good money that adding this on makes sense.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#406Congratulation to them. I think what they did is absolutely amazing and will be seen retrospectively as one of the biggest fads of history. - They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. - They managed to change chat from a set of open protocols to a single closed app terribly written in JS. - They managed to make a lo…
>They managed to make a lot of people absolute convinced advocate of Slack That's interesting. Any idea how could they possibly do that?
by hacking the reward circuits of your brain with immediate interactions? The issue is that those are counterproductive in the long term.
The exact same reason why people initially loved Facebook and spent so much time on it?
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
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> and they didn't need to bend or break laws to succeed. I agree. There is no law against half-assed, bloated Electron based desktop software that can bring even recent hardware to its knees.
I've never experienced this very common criticism of slack on here. When I occasionally check, Slack is using around 500mb or RAM. A lot for a chat app? Sure. But it has little to no affect on either my 16gb or 8gb machines.
It's 500MB RAM per tab/login/workspace (whatever it's called).
Office/company slack, project A slack, project B slack, ... and in no time slack starts to use more RAM than docker/VMs I am developing on.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. I experience quite the opposite. With in-person communication, people barge in, demand you drop what you're doing now and answer their question/conversation. With slack, you can answer them when you need a break or have finished something up.
You must not have someone who sends you a slack message and them come over to your desk to ask if you read their slack message.
I know people like that but they also write emails and then come over to tell me that they've send me and email.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#409Congratulation to them. I think what they did is absolutely amazing and will be seen retrospectively as one of the biggest fads of history. - They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. - They managed to change chat from a set of open protocols to a single closed app terribly written in JS. - They managed to make a lo…
1. you don't have to reply right away 2. chat being a set of open protocols has been a pipe dream of nerds for ages, the reality is that slack is your universal protocol now and everything preceding it forgot that actual humans had to use it 3. you seem unable to comprehend that people actually...like Slack???
People are not exactly a benchmark of good...
Slack is terrible for any definition of terrible.
Re: Slack Is Going Public at a $16B Valuation
#410Congratulation to them. I think what they did is absolutely amazing and will be seen retrospectively as one of the biggest fads of history. - They managed to disturb millions of worker to an attention-driven work culture in which everything needs to always be synchronous and immediate. - They managed to change chat from a set of open protocols to a single closed app terribly written in JS. - They managed to make a lo…
Slack is a giffen good for me in terms of attention. I have to pay so much attention to it that now it's all I pay attention to