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Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by FabHK »

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> this is a part that's pretty much guaranteed to fail (unless you basically never open your laptop.)

I have a 2016 MacBook "Pro", and every single part has been replaced (thanks, Apple Care) except the bottom plate.

It seems to me they are not really designed to be moved, or used in an environment with, you know, particles and such. Plug it in once, put a transparent dome over it, look at it, and you'll be just fine.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by throwaway400 »

pmilla1606 wrote: post #232
thought_alarm wrote: post #38

The arrow keys and touchbar make that machine completely unsuitable for writing code, at least for me. My right hand needs to unconsciously lock on to the arrow keys, and that's just impossible with that layout. There's nothing to grab on to. My new iMac keyboard sits in a drawer collecting dust solely because of the arrow keys. And the butterfly mechanism is unproven and untrustworthy, I don't care how many times th…

This is the first time I've seen somebody else complain about the arrow keys and I completely agree. It's by far the most infuriating aspect of this new keyboard. Another thing that I have a hard time explaining is my inability to orientate myself on this keyboard; several times a day I have to move the laptop around, look at the keys and "reset" myself to the keyboard. I don't know what that's about but I've only ev…

I hate my MBP arrow keys, but unless I'm doing a little work from home or in a meeting I never use the keyboard, instead I have a full size apple keyboard that I love and use with the macbook in clamshell mode hooked up to a dell 4k.

I'm probably not buying a new macbook pro for a long time... it's just not worth it to have such a high end machine that I use as a glorified traveling mac mini.

For my next work upgrade I am requesting a linux laptop.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by lostmsu »

awill wrote: post #298
microtonal wrote: post #181

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I am still using a MacBook Pro 2018 as my laptop, but do my primary work on an Intel NUC8i5BEH with Linux. I work remotely from my home, so I rarely need the laptop anymore. The NUC has the same quad core Intel i5-8259U, with double the RAM and double the SSD size at approximately a quarter of the price of MacBook Pro. If you don't have an existing screen, you can buy a good Dell HiDPI screen for ~500 Euros. The Linu…

I also work at a company heavily reliant on Microsoft Office. It makes it hard to pick any OS that isn't Windows or Mac. Cloud apps like Google Docs, Hangouts, Slack etc.. were supposed to make the OS less important. It's too bad we're not there yet.

Why not just use Windows then? If you really need *sh and command line tools, just get WSL, msys or cygwin.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by macbookcabler »

crsmithdev wrote: post #361

How hot will this thing be with 8 cores? Unless they've cut some ventilation holes in the bottom of the laptop. MBPs aren't exactly known for good thermal regulation (my previous one I had to actually undervolt the CPU so it wouldn't overheat while playing games for even Don't see anything re: keyboard so guessing that there aren't any changes there, unfortunately.

Dave Lee made a video about the Core i9 (now previous generation) that thermal throttled almost immediately under load. The throttling was so terrible it actually performed worse than the 2017 MacBook Pro.

https://youtu.be/Dx8J125s4cg

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by kitsunesoba »

artimaeis wrote: post #328
kitsunesoba wrote: post #110

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Using Safari with an adblocking extension that makes use of WebKit’s native content blocking capabilities makes an enormous difference when it comes to heat and power draw. I’ve tried Chrome and Firefox with uBlock Origin and both are considerably more demanding in CPU use while not being that much faster. Where Chrome and Firefox has my fans ramped up to 60%, Safari has them running at 10% or switched off. Really wi…

Any recommendation on a good adblocking extension for Safari on MacOS? I've been using KaBlock but I've not found a great source that meaningfully compares the existing options.

It costs a couple bucks but Wipr does pretty well and gets regular updates.

Another nice bonus to content blocker extensions like these is that they’re just JSON rule lists that Safari compiles into bytecode and runs against pages as they load. The extensions are barred from access to everything, meaning they can’t be bought up and turned into Trojan horses.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by jandrese »

unphased wrote: post #385
freehunter wrote: post #262

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I've had the same problem. I had a i7 T420 with 16GB of RAM that was lightning quick when I got it and over a few years became completely unusable even for basic tasks. When I hit the Windows key to open the start menu, I could turn and take a sip of coffee before it opened. Reformatting and reinstalling from scratch did nothing to improve the speed. I switched to a Macbook soon after and it is just as fast today as…

Still doesn't seem right. with an SSD it's only as fast as Windows 7 on a rotating HDD?

It's no longer bottlenecked on the disk IO presumably.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #140
victor22 wrote: post #95

My 2018 Macbook Pro's screen failed. They replaced it for free, but damaged the webcam in the process. They told me I'd need to pay over 500 dollars to get it fixed since I could not prove it was damaged while switching screens.

Small claims court?

This is a completely appropriate use of small-claims court. It's the one place where a regular citizen can afford a fair trial against Apple in the U.S.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by FabHK »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #386
TimTheTinker wrote: post #94

Apple designers need a new mantra, the age-old adage: "Form follows function." As it is, they're choosing a form ahead of time and compromising on function. The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs. The "thinness" or "sleekness" is only a nice-to-have, and only if it doesn't require compromise elsewhere.

Apple's mantra is "form over function".

It most definitely did not use to be.
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