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Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Re: Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Post by andai »

mrfredward wrote: post #274
x3haloed wrote: post #267

This headline smacks of fear mongering. Privacy TERRORS. ALGORITHMS! Walking, talking murder bots! Seriously? Please. If you pay for your streaming service, you don't have ads. Privacy concerns are an abstract existential concern that don't have practical effects at least in the context of music streaming. And algorithms? I don't understand what the fear is here. Just a general anti-technology sentiment? Why not make…

I agree with everything you just said, but I want to add a counterpoint. About a year ago, YouTube Music started playing ads for depression medication for me constantly. My music choice is...err...not particularly happy most of the time. I actually first noticed the ad after listening to a song called "Happy Pills." I have no evidence that I was profiled based on my music choice aside from this one coincidence, but i…

My phone has this feature where it periodically checks if I'm still looking at it, to turn off the screen if I'm not. It doesn't take the opportunity to spy on my facial expression, but I reckon it won't be long.

Re: Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Post by logosmonkey »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #392
rchaud wrote: post #261

I'm definitely on board with physical media. Almost all the vinyl I've bought comes with a download code anyway, and album artwork shines on a 12" x 12" canvas much more than it ever could on the tiny thumbnail you get on a music player app. That being said, indie music stores like Bandcamp are digital only, but offer one-click DRM-free MP3 downloads for purchased songs/albums. The UX is focused on buying music first…

Last.fm was ruined by, I think, CBS. Their recommendations were miles ahead of anything Spotify, Apple or Google have ever managed. So last.fm killed off the radio, the streaming, then started playing random Youtube vids for each track - very often a poor rendition, or a cover etc. I gave up years ago, but still miss that recommendation engine that drove the radio stations - I discovered so many brilliant new-to-me a…

Yeah, I think after it sold to.. Jay Z or someone? It started going off the rails. Prior to that I loved that service though.

Re: Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Post by aidenn0 »

guggle wrote: post #256
kstenerud wrote: post #189

I've got all my music ripped to FLAC, sitting on my file server, a little N40L microserver with 8tb mirrored storage (my music takes about 300gb total). On the server, I've got a script that uses ffmpeg to convert from flac to whatever format I want (currently aac and mp3, which my player devices support). The script also applies replaygain to keep the volume consistent. I run the script once and it processes the who…

"I've got all my music ripped to FLAC" And that's why I won't do it, because there's no way I can rip all my cds, let alone my vinyls... it takes way too much time.

If you're running linux, just riping the CDs is fairly hands-off once it's configured:

abcde can be configured to save a flac with an embedded cue-sheet. You can make it totally non-interactive, and a simple "eject -t; abcde; eject" will load the tray, rip the CD and eject the tray.

Then just load a CD in every time the tray ejects. I ripped a bit under 300 CDs in a week with the only extra time spent on it being setting everything up.

Re: Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Post by daboudii »

JohnFen wrote: post #372
kstenerud wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same way I have for the past 30 years. I listen from time to time to stations that play the kind of music I like. Sometimes I check out various places that have top 100 charts. If I find something I like, I go get it and add it to my collection. Rerun the script and resync my devices.

> I listen from time to time to stations that play the kind of music I like. You're lucky! In my area, there are no such stations. All of the stations are essentially top 40 (in each of the major genres -- top 40 country, top 40 pop, etc.), talk, and sports. There's nothing in any of those for me.

> There's nothing in any of those for me.

I can advice you to listen to fip, it's a french radio with every genre of music.

Re: Why play a music CD? No ads, no privacy terrors, no algorithms

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Post by aidenn0 »

raehik wrote: post #158

Where are my Rockbox users at? My tiny plastic Sansa Clip+ MP3 player has been going for years, I'd be nothing without it. >10hrs playback, supports >128 GB microSD, plays OGG/FLAC/MP3/AAC/anything. The Rockbox firmware is still being developed, albeit at a slow pace. By far the best combination of hardware+firmware I own. Unlikely to replace it for another few years. Sadly not produced any more :(

Sansa Clip+ was dollar-for-dollar possibly the best music player ever made.

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Post by ViViDboarder »

neuralk wrote: post #235
kstenerud wrote: post #189

I've got all my music ripped to FLAC, sitting on my file server, a little N40L microserver with 8tb mirrored storage (my music takes about 300gb total). On the server, I've got a script that uses ffmpeg to convert from flac to whatever format I want (currently aac and mp3, which my player devices support). The script also applies replaygain to keep the volume consistent. I run the script once and it processes the who…

This feels like a business opportunity. Or, at least, an open source repo + a tutorial article that would attract donations.

There are already several projects that do this. Sub/Mad/Airsonic all allow hosting your own music and transcoding with ffmpeg.

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Post by edpichler »

sansnomme wrote: post #148
edpichler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I lost my precious childhood videos after "saving" on the cloud. Google deleted it because of some seconds of the background music of AC/DC's on the radio.

Please elaborate, was this Google Drive?

Oh, sorry.. it is on Youtube. But I will never trust in any Google service again, as I did.

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Post by edpichler »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #228
edpichler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I lost my precious childhood videos after "saving" on the cloud. Google deleted it because of some seconds of the background music of AC/DC's on the radio.

Were these on youtube? I wasn't aware that Google did the DMCA takedowns complaints for the rights holder - I thought the rights holder had to make a complaint, and that would necessitate them being somewhere the rights holder could view them.

Yes, youtube. Now I can't download it.

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Post by edpichler »

ekianjo wrote: post #145
edpichler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I lost my precious childhood videos after "saving" on the cloud. Google deleted it because of some seconds of the background music of AC/DC's on the radio.

And there is no way to get them back? Completely deleted?

I can play it on a small window on the youtube editor page. But I could not find a way to download it back yet.

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Post by edpichler »

fjsolwmv wrote: post #239
edpichler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I lost my precious childhood videos after "saving" on the cloud. Google deleted it because of some seconds of the background music of AC/DC's on the radio.

You played AC/DC on multiple videos, and deleted all your originals and other copies after uploading it to YouTube?

No, it just blocked my videos where there were, at least, a few minutes of music on the background.
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