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Responsible for what? They delivered the package to the location that it was supposed to be delivered to.
Outside, where anyone can take it. That's not responsible delivery.
But it's still certainly delivery.
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#402Why is not an option in the US to get your parcels delivered to your workplace? This is quite common practice in Germany.
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No reasonable expectation of privacy in a security camera situation.
That's not entirely accurate. It depends on where you are and what the video camera is recording. I'm also not sure that creating a hoax device with the intention of surreptitiously recording individuals that also damages their property and releases a chemical agent would be considered strictly "a security camera".
Would be an interesting court case.
There can likely be no expectation of privacy trespassing on someone else's property.
but, for the package. Can you have an expectation of privacy when opening an unknown-thing? The device isn't recording until it is opened. I could see logical arguments on both sides. But, since the audio/visual recording doesn't start until they open the thing it might be on the safe-side of wiretap laws?
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#404This needs careful consideration if you ever decide to do it. Depending on the local criminal culture they could exact revenge. Then also know where you live and can do a lot worse things than taking a package. Police might later be involved but it might not be worth it. You are dealing with people who have no qualms stealing so it's not too crazy to expect other rash and illegal acts from them. I can also see some i…
I learned from Nextdoor, that a neighbor of mine put cat litter in an amazon box, and later found out her car's driver side window busted in and the litter dumped on the seat. I now just have packages sent to lockers and UPS/FedEX access points, and I know a few who have packages delivered to their office. The crappy part is that she captured clear detail of both events but police couldn't be bothered. Nest and Ring…
> there's still a ways to go before security camera footage can be sent to the PD and automatically identify the offender via facial analysis.
Be careful what you wish for. I don't want the police to be able to perform accurate facial recognition at the kind of scale you're talking about, even if that would make it harder for thieves to steal packages.
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#405Do not mess with engineers
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#406Earlier quoted context omitted.
I learned from Nextdoor, that a neighbor of mine put cat litter in an amazon box, and later found out her car's driver side window busted in and the litter dumped on the seat. I now just have packages sent to lockers and UPS/FedEX access points, and I know a few who have packages delivered to their office. The crappy part is that she captured clear detail of both events but police couldn't be bothered. Nest and Ring…
I wonder if this would make a good startup. Allow people to share footage of thieves stealing goods. Allow varying levels of geolocation and let people suggest identities. Not sure what other precautions would be needed to protect from misidentification.
How does it make money?
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What's the crime? Stealing something that is less than $1000? They could have stolen that from the front of a store and if they weren't detained by a store cop, the police won't do anything typically. If they plead guilty, they probably would just get a small fine, not worth the time of a detective to make the case.
Serious question then... what's the deterrent? Sounds like a person could spend all day looking for packages, resell the contents, at the risk of just paying a small fee if one happens to prosecute...
Welcome to the reality. Typically, the criminals are caught with lots of items, and there's theft and possession of stolen property. Or if they are stopped, they are also carrying drugs and they'll get charged with that.
Edit: Also, its not so easy to sell a bunch of random things for the cash. For every iphone that might get you a 100 or so in one transaction, there's a bunch of random things that you might get you $20 if you spend a day trying sell them.
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> You are dealing with people who have no qualms stealing, it's not too crazy to expect other rash and illegal acts from them. In more then one instance the thief opened the package at their house. So its fair to say he knows where they live too. Also, very clear HD video of their faces and vehicles. And there is no way all the glitter is going to get cleaned up - so more evidence of who they are. And home security c…
You could even put this stuff inside of the glitter-dispenser: http://bernews.com/2010/04/police-tasers-anti-felon-confetti...
I was also thinking about this. Identifying glitter could be an interesting product, because it's so hard to get rid of all of it. ex, you could embed short DNA plasmid UUIDs in the plastic.
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#409If you're concerned about package thieves, just buy an outdoor cabinet and put it next to your door with a note asking that packages be placed in it. I use an Ikea Josef: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/storage-furniture/outdoo... You don't even need a lock for it. If you can get the deliverymen to consistently place packages in it, the thieves will have no idea if there's actually a package at your door to steal…
I do this with a patio box, but added a door sensor that transmits to our alarm/home automation system and triggers a recording from the camera aimed at that area and a push notification to my phone. UPS is good at putting packages in the box. On good days, FedEx might get them in the vicinity of the porch.
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#410Wow the video codec just doesn't know what to do with that much glitter, does it.