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Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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There is no way Facebook would ever implement something like this. The whole point of the Facebook feed tinkering is to force you to wade through a river of shit to find the nuggets you are interested in. The feed algorithm is all about making that river just slightly short of unbearable, because the river is where they stuff all the ads. If they provided you with useful filters it would make the revenue opportunitie…

The Facebook feed is a slot machine.

At least slot machines have a chance (however low) of paying out. The Facebook feed is a slot machine and all of the prizes are used condoms and dirty needles.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Google+ had terrible marketing and release, but it had some decent ideas that I wish other networks had carried over. The idea of "circles", where you had a circle for "acquaintances" "friends", "family" would be great on, say, Facebook, as it would allow me to filter down my feed to just the people I really care about but still have a connection to more distance acquaintances. Currently on Facebook the news feed is…

There was an entire presentation made by a product manager at Google on circles: https://www.slideshare.net/padday/the-real-life-social-netwo... The presentation was amazing and I can definitely believe is influenced leadership at Google to make a product that was "better" for people who have complicated social networks (the "I want to go to a rave on the weekend and share those photos with my friends, and then go to…

I think the real solution to this turned out to be using different apps.

Maybe Facebook for general friends and family posts, Snapchat with friends, WhatsApp chat with another group of friends, Twitter for truly public posts, Slack for work, etc.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Very good insight. If you think about it, Google benefits from proliferation of third party websites, thus cloud business is synergetic with Google search. Facebook and Google+ are competitive with Google search since they centralize the web. For many, Google search reduced to a search engine for Wikipedia and StackOverflow and a couple of other big sites. This poses a long-term threat for search.

> cloud business is synergetic with Google search The funny thing is that while it's obviously synergetic, up to 2012 it was a Urs' toy project on the back-burner. It was mostly run from SEA/KIR with MTV leadership largely oblivious. There were gems like this, for example: once they forgot to cover cloud organization in the company OKR meetings broadcasted to all employees :) Only when they realized that external clo…

What are these abbreviations? SEA/KIR, MTV, OKR, and TI.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Erm, Facebook did implement something like this. Shortly after Google+ came out. You can still assign friends to different groups.

> Erm, Facebook did implement something like this. Shortly after Google+ came out. You can still assign friends to different groups. IIRC, Facebook never really promoted those features or tried to make them easy and intuitive to use. Recently they've also made changes to make them less useful. It's sort of like difference between having a well-designed and usable feature or a similar feature that only exists to check…

They were easy and intuitive. Facebook didn't promote them for the same reason the circles in Google+ lacked traction: The majority of users didn't care and didn't want it.

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I'm not sure that's a compelling reason. Why aren't frozen goods at the back of the store then? And are you sure milk needs to be stocked from behind? Is it at the back of the store because it needs to be stocked from behind - or is it stocked from behind simply because its at the back of the store?

If you stock it from the front, then there could be a couple gallons in the back that never get bought. Unless they let the stock run out completely before restocking. Plus with thing like milk, it is a real pain to push several gallons uphill to put something else in front (ever try to put a milk container back on the sloped shelf? Takes a couple hands and some fidgeting to do it).

In the UK I've never seen a rear loaded fridge, you always stock from the front.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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I'm not sure that's a compelling reason. Why aren't frozen goods at the back of the store then? And are you sure milk needs to be stocked from behind? Is it at the back of the store because it needs to be stocked from behind - or is it stocked from behind simply because its at the back of the store?

If you stock it from the front, then there could be a couple gallons in the back that never get bought. Unless they let the stock run out completely before restocking. Plus with thing like milk, it is a real pain to push several gallons uphill to put something else in front (ever try to put a milk container back on the sloped shelf? Takes a couple hands and some fidgeting to do it).

that's a good point about the keeping older milk up front!

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Google+ had terrible marketing and release, but it had some decent ideas that I wish other networks had carried over. The idea of "circles", where you had a circle for "acquaintances" "friends", "family" would be great on, say, Facebook, as it would allow me to filter down my feed to just the people I really care about but still have a connection to more distance acquaintances. Currently on Facebook the news feed is…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circle_(Eggers_novel)

ouch

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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There is no way Facebook would ever implement something like this. The whole point of the Facebook feed tinkering is to force you to wade through a river of shit to find the nuggets you are interested in. The feed algorithm is all about making that river just slightly short of unbearable, because the river is where they stuff all the ads. If they provided you with useful filters it would make the revenue opportunitie…

They had a features largely the same as circles, from around when g+ came out, to about two months ago. https://m.facebook.com/help/ipad-app/204737159568794?helpref...

They specifically added mediocre, hidden filter options and labels in order to kill migration to G+. Once they were sure G+ was not a real threat, they stopped caring about those features they never wanted in the first place.
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