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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by Damogran6 »

gervase wrote: post #392
ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

This isn't unique to technology, but can easily be seen in politics, sports, religion, etc. It's just not labelled fanboyism in other domains. My background is not in psychology, but I suspect is boils down to something like "I've made my decision, don't wish to admit I am wrong, and will therefore vociferously defend my position against all comers, as well as attack those who disagree with me."

The problem comes when there's really only two choices.

1. I have an iPhone because it consistently received phonecalls when my 6N and Google Fi did not. 2. I had issues with SMS going where the fuck ever in Android that isn't an issue in iPhone. 3. iMessage's walled garden is slightly preferential because it's where the bulk of my contacts are.

Therefore I'm an Apple fanboy and apologist. I guess.

There's a similar rabid population with gaming (consoles vs. PCMR) that goes away when you have enough funding to just buy both. A lot of rabid fanboyism exists where funds are sparse.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by chrischen »

dogweather wrote: post #130
mirkules wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the review I'd really like to see. I'm not interested in "first impressions" or "1 month in". I'm interested what happens after a year, two or even three years. I have an iPhone 6S+, and it works almost flawlessly - animation is still good, very few app glitches, and even the original battery is in decent shape. I'd like to hear how Androids from that era fare compared to iPhones from that era - because I pla…

> iPhone 6S+ I replaced my battery and the phone sped way up. Unfortunately, after the battery replacement, the new battery health UI doesn't work, saying it can't communicate w/ the battery.

Sounds like if you go to the apple store they will fix it or swap it again.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by chrischen »

freddie_mercury wrote: post #106
fasj82 wrote: post #73

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Then you call Apple. A guy comes and picks your mobile up, and then another guy comes and gives you a new mobile.

There is no Apple in my country. I can't call them and they certainly won't come pick up my phone.

For places that do not have apple stores they usually have authorized repair centers. These arent as convenient as walking into an apple store but usually still better than shipling them something and waiting weeks to get it back.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by dalore »

nvarsj wrote: post #315
dalore wrote: post #205

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And with Apple you use Apple services which no doubt do the same invasion of privacy. And if you don't want to see ads it's pretty easy, buy apps without ads rather than using ad supported apps. > Similarly, a lot of the inconveniences you point out (e.g. LastPass), are also a way of protecting you from rogue apps (e.g. Facebook) from tracking everything you do on your phone. That level of integration means that any…

https://thehackernews.com/2018/03/android-botnet-malware.htm... This malware was installed on vanilla phones including those from Samsung, out of the factory. Regarding LastPass, it used the accessibility option, which as far as I know basically let's it watch your screen - aka it's a full on screen logger. On top of this most Android devices are way out of date (Samsung in particular is terrible about updating their…

Yes you described LastPass exactly as I said. You need to go and turn it on as accessibility services. You get told anything turned on can see you screen/keys etc. And with that you have control and visibility as you can see what apps you have given permissions vs ones you don't. You make the conscious decision to grant that sort of permission and for that you get a better user experience.

Apple is more like the outdated OS with more features and better user experiences going to Android.

Out of date Android's aren't really the big problem you make it out to be. It just means they really won't the latest apps. They probably just use their phone to call people and are happy with it.

And you're kidding yourself to think there isn't adware/malware for Apple flying around. The number of vulnerabilities and malware does not indicate how secure a platform is but how often hackers are trying. With Android's increased marketshare of course it gets the majority of attempts.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by basch »

YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

Apple syncing, backup, photos is a complete mess. I cant count the number of times people have asked me "what does this message mean" and the response is "pay apple $1/month for them to back up your phone, or stop backing up your photos." I am shocked apple still wont back up your phone for free.

Not being able to see whats in a backup until you run a restore is also near inexcusable.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

craftyguy wrote: post #359
ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

I can't wait for the Librem5 phone. Both mainstream options, whether it's Apple or Android, are terrible.

I always wonder about people who value security so highly.

I like the idea of security but I can't justify the cost of more than $2,000 to protect myself from ad trackers.

Like is this something that matters that much because of the line of work you do? Or is it just about being a high net worth individual.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by meitham »

craftyguy wrote: post #359
ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

I can't wait for the Librem5 phone. Both mainstream options, whether it's Apple or Android, are terrible.

I was one that of the first to jump on the FirefoxOS and really believed it will be a viable option. I can’t describe the disappointment when the project was killed off. I doubt there will be any alternative to android or iOS for a while. However I think once phones are powerful enough people will just run standard GNU/Linux on it, at the stage there won’t be much of distinction between a general purpose computer and a phone.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by jpeeler »

Lots of comments here about being upset over the trend of headphone jack removal in both camps. I know advertising is... just that, but I'm still disappointed in Google's ad for the first Pixel phone (started at 43s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rykmwn0SMWU&start=43&version...

This was right after Apple removed the headphone jack on the iPhone 7. And after poking fun at Apple, the next generation Pixel 2 of course also had the headphone jack removed as well.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by tjoff »

tjoff wrote: post #400
wilsonnb wrote: post #316

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It will work with any phone or PC with a USB C port as long as the OS supports USB audio devices. As far as I know, all the major OS's support those. Even iOS if you have a lightning -> USB adapter. Technically it draws power but it's not going to use more power than an internal headphone jack does. They are both just a DAC and a small headphone amp. The only difference is that one is inside the device and one is out…

"It will work". Just as bluetooth? Humanity has serious issues getting serial to work over USB, yet this will just work? Across all OSes? We can't even make USB-C CABLES correctly, but THIS is a sure thing? Even the cheap ones everyone will buy? Or the expensive ones that has the same hardware but a nicer box/cable? We won't have apple compatible cables, android compatible cables etc.? We won't have situations where…

Add to that, we can't even make passive USB-C to 3.5mm adapters properly!

But even that doesn't matter now when the Pixel 2 (etc.) has been released without even an internal DAC. People buy these overpriced passive adapters but they obviously won't work, so people leave 1-star reviews and have to return the cables.

This is a fuckup of epic proportions.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by s73v3r_ »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #374
mathgeek wrote: post #341

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> There is a subset of the family that uses facetime, they don't talk to the rest of us as often anymore. To me, this is one of the greatest shortcomings of video chat. We went from a universal phone system to a mostly universal SMS system (most private networks still supported SMS) to a segregated video chat system, and it hurts relationships if you're not careful.

And that is entirely Apple's fault. That is one of my main frustrations with Apple: In order to compel more people to use their platform, they made a proprietary communication service, and preloaded it on all of their devices. Now I have to deal with this arbitrary segregation, just because some corporation decided it would help their bottom line. This is exactly the kind of practice rms warned us about decades ago,…

Google Duo works just fine on iPhones.
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