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The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by cocoggu »

icebraining wrote: post #275
8draco8 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The law/studio deals have to change. Netflix offers great movies and they lock it down to certain countries. For example I am big fan of Back To The Future. I can watch may favourite movie every month when I'm in UK but when I am in Poland then no luck. Same goes in other direction. While being in Poland I downloaded via Netflix National Lampoon Animal House to watch on plane. I watched half of it on plane then tried…

I don't understand what is the profit for movie companies in narrowing down their own market. The movie company sold the rights to show that movie in the UK to some other company instead of Netflix, probably for more money than Netflix offered them. Also, you're paying a fixed monthly fee, and unless you're part of the small minority that travels a lot, you're not likely to drop Netflix over not being able to watch c…

In my case, my life is spent between France and China where Netflix is inexistant. I won't cancel the subscription since my family in France is using it, but it would be almost pointless to keep paying only for myself.

I don't understand this practice as well, when you are paying for a DVD or a VOD service which allow you to download the file, you can still watch it anywhere. Is it illegal to bring a DVD abroad? Why don't they give you the catalog you paid for in first place, everywhere, depending on your country's bank card? Then, no more need to setup a VPN blockade.

I feel these copyright companies often pick the most inconvenient option, even if it's costing them more in the end.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by on_and_off »

jimmies wrote: post #62

I can't read the article because the website is down. But I have something to say about torrenting movies. Late last year, my old parents who don't speak English came to visit me for a couple of months in the US. I'm just a graduate student with a limited budget, and my mom is car sick so we couldn't go out every night. I didn't want them to waste time on Facebook after dinner until we went to bed, so I had to think…

Yesterday I saw that 'Lord of the Rings' is on Netflix.

I thought to myself 'Cool, I have not seen this movie since it's initial release. I remember there is an extended version, let's check it out'.

Nope, you only get the base version on Netflix. And that's until netflix removes it from it's library.

I am pretty sure that for such a well known movie, I could be watching the hires version of the extended cut with all its goodies after 2 minutes of research if I wanted too thanks to bitorrent.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by guelo »

fnord123 wrote: post #352
icebraining wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what is the profit for movie companies in narrowing down their own market. The movie company sold the rights to show that movie in the UK to some other company instead of Netflix, probably for more money than Netflix offered them. Also, you're paying a fixed monthly fee, and unless you're part of the small minority that travels a lot, you're not likely to drop Netflix over not being able to watch c…

>The movie company sold the rights to show that movie in the UK to some other company instead of Netflix, probably for more money than Netflix offered them. This is being actively addressed by the EU: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/copyright

Unlucky for this guy that wont help him after brexit.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by cat199 »

FabHK wrote: post #309
gsich wrote: post #284

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Netflix is enforcing it. They do the actual technical action of blocking access.

As a side effect, btw, you can't watch Netflix if you habitually use a VPN (as they block proxies).

> if you habitually use a VPN

depends on the VPN...

if you mean 'commercial vpn service', then probably yes.

if you mean 'routing it through some other machine you own', 'your access to ' then probably no..

vpn != commercial vpn service

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by cat199 »

adrusi wrote: post #243
phil248 wrote: post #205

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Torrenting for me has always been about convenience, not money. I recently wanted to watch a new show called A.P. Bio. It's free on NBC's website. But after struggling through one episode with lags and ads with no volume control, I gave up and just torrented the show. Until they master such exotic technologies as "streaming video" and "volume control" they're going to keep driving people to torrenting. Netflix figure…

I have a wireless audio configuration which introduces 200ms latency. This is usually unnoticeable because I watch almost all my video through mpv, which lets me set a 200ms delay on the video to compensate. I can't play Netflix titles through mpv, and as far as I've been able to tell, the Netflix player doesn't have an AV sync setting. My setup is idiosyncratic, and I wouldn't expect Netflix to build in every featur…

should have bought a digital monster cable instead..

would have had just as much utility and impressive shinyness without the latency..

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by jstarfish »

yellow_postit wrote: post #242
jstarfish wrote: post #91

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I agree, but the current landscape is such that it feels like seeing a street performer only accepting tips in Bitcoin. Do you want my money or not? It's made clear to me every time I want to go watch something and am willing to pay money for it but it's not available on any of the platforms (read: middlemen) I pay to subscribe to; I have to subscribe to yet another one just to see that show. Or it was there until ye…

So just don’t watch it. I don’t get why that’s so hard.

Nobody here got anywhere in life by making a habit of giving up at the first sign of resistance.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by lbenes »

kuon wrote: post #382

I have a netflix subscription, but I download all movies from bittorrent, for three reasons: 1. Quality, especially audio, on many netflix movie I just cannot hear the voices. VLC is much better at mixing 5.1 to stereo for my speakers (not mentioning having multichannel when I watch on TV) 2. Being able to apply filters. I don't use many filters, but when I watch movie on my computers, I like to change the gamma of V…

Do you do this with VLC or another media player? I have a 16:10 monitor that often has space in the letterboxes for subtitles. I took the time to do this in VLC for a foreign TV series, but the next time I went to use subtitles it was broken and I didn't bother to tweak it. This really ought to be a built-in feature that just works™ without fiddling.

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Post by FuckOffNeemo »

dingo_bat wrote: post #370
Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

> Quality. I don't care that your algorithm thinks my network is not fast enough for HD. Just let me tell it that it's wrong. Or I could torrent and download something in actual HD within just a few minutes. This is so true. I have a decently fast connection (75mbps) and Netflix's own speed test tells me the pipe really is that fat. YouTube can play 1080p60fps content without breaking a sweat. But Netflix is always b…

1080p and 4k streaming on Windows currently only works on Internet Explorer\Edge.

Other browsers are at a lesser resolution, I believe it was 720p but that could be wrong.

Edit: yup, 720p on everything except IT.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742

Quote:

    Google Chrome

        Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux

        Up to 1080p on Chrome OS

    Internet Explorer up to 1080p

    Microsoft Edge up to 4K*

    Mozilla Firefox up to 720p

    Opera up to 720p

    Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by PeterisP »

tomp wrote: post #231
jedberg wrote: post #120

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> Netflix usually doesn't offer even English subtitles to an English-speaking movie if you're in a non-English speaking country! Sadly, this has nothing to do with streaming and everything to do with rightsholders (aka "Hollywood"). The rights on the subtitles are held by the company that makes them, are then sold to the company that distributes the movie, which are then resold to regional distributors, separately fr…

I don't see how English subtitles for an English movie can even be copyrighted... they're definitely not a work of art, not transformative, just a plain old transcript.

The copyright of the movie script & audio track extends to the subtitles. It's not an independent work of art, but it's part of one - and the copyright holder certainly can licence you only part of their work or only certain forms of their work, and they've chosen to grant you one transformation and not another.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by drdeadringer »

tvanantwerp wrote: post #391
samfriedman wrote: post #206

While it's true that BitTorrent as a protocol has significantly fallen out of favor as the go-to technology for John Q. Pirate's needs, there are still many niche torrent sites that stay alive by differentiating on quality and community. Most of these sites are invite-only, and each tend to specialize in a specific type of media. One site might accept only movies, another TV shows, a third comic book scans, and a fou…

> BitTorrent as a protocol has significantly fallen out of favor as the go-to technology for John Q. Pirate's needs... Out of curiosity, what would you say is the go-to technology for pirates now?

For me, at least, I still use torrent//magnet technology on The High Seas.

I'm not sure if this is because I am yet again unaware of What's Next until it's too late, or yet again Simply Stubborn on what tech I use, or whatever Option Three is this time.

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