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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

> After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I put my elderly mother on my netflix account with her own profile and she couldn't be happier. I saved her a bunch of money that she'd otherwise be spending on cable and as a bonus she's not watching 24hr news that's making her afraid all day. For something that I occasionally will use but she always uses,…

Heh. My elderly father watches 100x more Netflix than I do. It makes him happy, particularly for the price. I'm glad he enjoys it, even if I also wish I could nudge him towards a wider variety of shows.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

"Netflix, however, I'll keep paying for gladly because of the library size. For the streaming price, it is well worth the value." Well sure, assuming you only want to watch content created by Netflix itself. That's the direction it's going with Netflix.

Will be interesting to see where the Netflix content based on Disney properties goes from here.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Another thing I bet they'll do is arbitrarily pull movies from the streaming service for a period of time so people will flock to the service when they announce its return in a 2 minute commercial you can only see in the theater before their latest movies. They are the kings of artificial scarcity.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

In 1999, Qwest had a 30-second commercial that seemed incredibly futuristic at the time, talking about a hotel where "every room has every movie ever made in every language anytime day or night" and it seemed impossibly futuristic. Not 20 years later, the technology for this is already well-established; the only thing stopping it is that the owners of the films don't want to make them available this way. https://www.…

Gee -- I wonder why the Qwest CEO went to prison...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

> After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I put my elderly mother on my netflix account with her own profile and she couldn't be happier. I saved her a bunch of money that she'd otherwise be spending on cable and as a bonus she's not watching 24hr news that's making her afraid all day. For something that I occasionally will use but she always uses,…

Korean soaps are great for old people! My mom (Caucasian middle american) also now likes running man.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

#406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

> After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I put my elderly mother on my netflix account with her own profile and she couldn't be happier. I saved her a bunch of money that she'd otherwise be spending on cable and as a bonus she's not watching 24hr news that's making her afraid all day. For something that I occasionally will use but she always uses,…

Korean soaps are great for old people! My mom (Caucasian middle american) also now likes running man.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

| The biggest deterrent, for me at least, is not the price but the need to switch platforms. I'm already annoyed when I have to go from Netflix to Amazon to find a movie/show I want to see but can't remember where it is. No chance I'll add a third, forth, or fifth platform to the mix. That's my biggest pain point as well. I already have to switch between Netflix / Hulu / Amazon to figure out who has the content I wan…

IMO, one of the biggest design goals of Apple TV is precisely exposing content on a provider-agnostic interface, to avoid this pain. As services get more and more fragmented, Apple could become more and more competitive in that space.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Dividing content by movie studio cuts against the grain. In most cases a single studio produces an arbitrary subset of the stuff I might want to watch. This is unlike, say, ESPN, where I can add it to my cable subscription if I like watching sports. ESPN is a semantically coherent unit of content. Disney isn't.

If the Disney move represents a trend, it's going to be particularly frustrating for end users, as there will be no legal solution for watching what we want to watch when we want to watch it, unless we subscribe to all services. Guess how many users will do that, and how many will just click the magnet link.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Maybe because people have a little bit more pricing data than they used to and know what $10 of programming is worth. Your $80/mo cable bundle is split something like: $12 taxes, $43 ESPN, $9 Viacom and the rest split by everyone else. $10 buys a lot.

Cable channels are also funded by ads, though.

Originally they weren’t. That was the whole idea of cable, fund by subscription. Didn’t work out.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Most people pay north of $100/mo for cable TV [1]. Depending on your bundle you may pay as high as $150 (anecdotal from friends who have Comcast). If you pay $50/mo for your internet connection you could afford 5 or so $10/mo services on the same budget. Arguably, right now Comcast Xfinity has the most/best streamable content if you pay for HBO. This will likely change soon; this has been a long time coming. Cord-cut…

It is worth noting though that those figures are American, but Netflix and the Disney decision are global. The US is a bit of an outlier in terms of both the cost and popularity of cable TV. For example in Australia, a country very similar to the US in terms of pop culture and entertainment, only around 25% of homes have cable TV and the most popular package is US$39. In the US the cost can be looked at as '5 service…

High-quality public television tends to make cable and satellite TV less attractive. SkyTV has been far less popular in its primary markets than DirecTV has been in the US.

In the US, Comcast and Verizon are more analogous to the BBC in England -- TV is less expensive (as an individual monthly cost) when it is publicly funded.

Interestingly, the BBC is investing heavily to compete with Netflix [1]. If you live in an area that the BBC serves, you will likely need fewer streaming services to get the content you want.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/04/uk-broadcaster-bbc-invests-4...

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