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Re: Amazon Go

#401

This encourages consumerism. It will be hard to take a count of what you're spending. While I wait in the line I always rethink about what I'm buying, sometimes I realize I'm buying something I don't need.

Amazon hates consumerism.

Re: Amazon Go

#402

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"I don't like the company that you wageslaves work for, so I'm going to create a big stinky mess for y'all to clean up. (And also waste some trivial amount of the company's money.)"

If this was the only tactic one could use to waste money at Walmart, then yes, it would be trivial. Now, imagine a team of 20 people doing this, as well as numerous other tactics to waste their money, weekly at 5 locations in a city. the numbers start adding up real quick. the wageslaves don't care. Wal-Mart pays them low enough that the company assists them with acquiring welfare benefits to supplement their incomes…

Wow, you are a horrible person. Intentionally wasting food and then making poorly paid Walmart employees to clean it up.

Re: Amazon Go

#403

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I'm assuming your Amazon Go account is tied to a credit card. In which case, it's not Amazon's problem. They got their money - you now owe your credit card company.

And if your credit card company declines the charges when Amazon attempts to bill them? Then they're out inventory and don't have any compensation. Then it becomes their problem.

Maybe they ping the card with a $1 charge every so often to ensure it's at least not cancelled. It could be maxed out in which case they'll likely just give you a negative balance and a time period to pay it. If you don't they can just sell it collections and potentially ban you from the store (it looks like you need to scan your phone to get into the store).

Re: Amazon Go

#404

How has nobody mentioned the worry that you'll get overcharged? I'm sure computer vision isn't perfect, however close it may be, and once you've left the store (presumably when you'd check your receipt) there's no way to prove you didn't take whatever you were charged for. I'd be pretty worried about accidentally "buying" something I didn't actually take, even if that's statistically unlikely. (Yeah, I know, it doesn…

Thats the same problem current grocery stores today have though. As the buyer, it's currently my job to make sure I'm not overcharged

Re: Amazon Go

#405

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They don't have to get intensely technical but they could say a little more than basically, "magic".

Except to a layman it is basically magic. Using X technology we did Y so you can do Z. I'm sure in coming months you'll get the in depth technical explanation you are looking for but this announcement isn't for you it's for the average person.

That's a rather defeatist attitude to have about explaining technology to laymen.

For example (not saying this is how it actually works): "Scanning your phone when you enter lets us know who you are. Then, our advanced vision tracking system follows you around the store and lets us see what you're choosing. Finally, scanners in our turnstiles verify your purchases as you're leaving the store."

Re: Amazon Go

#408

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How about just not shopping at Wal-Mart? I stopped shopping there in 2009. When I returned to the US, I stopped shopping at Amazon because it had pretty much become the new Wal-Mart; maybe worse even. This is cool tech and I'd want to try it, but I hate shopping anything Amazon. They had sd cards at their brick and mortar store, but I decided to buy one at Office Depot instead, even though it was $10 more.

Upvoted for sensibility. in many rural areas of the United States, it is literally impossible to shop anywhere but Wal-Mart. Nebraska and Kansas had a rather large economic dive in the early 2000's due to the expansion of the Waltons. Their business plan is essentially: 1) Announce intention to move into area 2) woo politicians for financial kickbacks to subsidize expansion 3) launch with prices _far_ lower than all…

> 4) Wait as other businesses run out of money due to not being able to compete on price.

> 5) raise prices once monopoly is established.

Do you have any evidence of this?

I'm originally from northern Arkansas and my town has store #0002. It opened in the 60s, but it was converted to one of the first Supercenters in the early 90s. As far as I know none of the local grocery stores there have closed - both of them are still there to this day.

I live in Charlottesville, VA today, and there are three WalMarts within ~25 miles of me - yet there are also many other regional and national chains operating in the area, the most notable of which is probably Wegman's which just expanded here.

Re: Amazon Go

#409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this was the only tactic one could use to waste money at Walmart, then yes, it would be trivial. Now, imagine a team of 20 people doing this, as well as numerous other tactics to waste their money, weekly at 5 locations in a city. the numbers start adding up real quick. the wageslaves don't care. Wal-Mart pays them low enough that the company assists them with acquiring welfare benefits to supplement their incomes…

Wow, you are a horrible person. Intentionally wasting food and then making poorly paid Walmart employees to clean it up.

Upvoted for someone with a Top Gun nickname pontificating on my worth to society.
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