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Re: Nootropics

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Post by george_ciobanu » Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 5:04 AM UTC

joeyspn wrote: post #337

arcanus wrote: post #270

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^ this. Absolutely don't disagree with any of it. Big runner here. I'll just add that many people are mentally exhausted, and frustrated they cannot sleep. But I bet they are not physically exhausted. HIIT, distance running, whatever works, etc. are all great ways to tire out your body.

Yes, cardio and anaerobic (weight lifting, etc) works wonders... but don't do it at the end of the day (10PM or even later) because you'll also have problems sleeping. Post-work out insomnia is a very common problem. (IMO the best time for exercising is during the morning and afternoon)

I think it depends. I can't workout in the morning and get super sleepy after running, and sleep super well.

Re: Nootropics

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Post by udkl » Sun, Sep 25, 2016, 6:32 PM UTC

yarou wrote: post #107

As I've said in other places, the discussion of nootropics used to be a scientific discussion of cognitive enhancers by sober, psychologically healthy people. But as of late, it's degenerated into shady grey market talk of legal highs, tainting the discussion. In particular, DO NOT use phenibut for long periods of time. The withdrawal can be potentially life-threatening, including horrible seizures that paramedics ma…

   and reading a book that teaches you something new.

I can attest to this. I've noticed I sleep MUCH better when I watch the next episode of "The Mechanical Universe" on my phone in my bed right before I sleep.

Re: Nootropics

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Post by camelNotation » Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 8:03 PM UTC

nommm-nommm wrote: post #355

camelNotation wrote: post #265

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Sex is a good option too. My wife and I both fall asleep earlier and sleep longer after we've had a good romp and roll.

Sex does the opposite for me - it wakes me up.

You must not be burning enough calories. Increase your output.

Re: Nootropics

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Post by zebraflask » Fri, Sep 30, 2016, 2:57 PM UTC

Obi_Juan_Kenobi wrote: post #368

zebraflask wrote: post #261

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Agreed on the smaller doses of melatonin. A full tablet (5 or 10mg) tends to have the opposite effect and make me even wider awake after an hour or so of sleepiness. Someone told me once that most tablets are dosed too strong simply because it's an inexpensive supplement, and in the manufacturing process, it's cheaper to use the production templates used for other supplements that are dosed in higher amounts.

Not sure that makes much sense; tablets are mostly a binding agent that's mixed with a fairly small amount of active ingredient. In most cases, you simply have to change the ratio of binder to achieve the desired dose. Even a 10mg tablet would be very small indeed. More likely it's demand from people that generally think 'more = better'.

It's the cost to change the factory line processes. If you're set to pump out 10mg tablets, and it's cheaper to just use more product than recalibrate your machines, then . . . there you go.