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I would love to integrate any walks of life into melting pots. The _reality_ is that certain religion somehow is different, for that religion a well-educated youth could easily become a cold-blood terrorist after watching some youtube videos and read a few propaganda booklets, throw everything away he previously learnt in the west, the place where he was raised, and use what he learnt to attack from within. That chan…
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Why? Its an angry comment, but its what very many think. Don't we listen in order to understand that which we don't understand? Is only one view allowed? 15 years of this war on terror, and we have this. Something isn't working, something needs to change. I'd suggest that flagging people we don't like the sound of is one of those things we need to change.
> "It's because of dhimmis like you" Is specifically against HN guidelines for commenting. Otherwise we're in violent agreement, that whole 'war on terror' thing is bankrupt and it's high time that that was acknowledged in the places where it matters but that will take a lot of time and a very different approach to problem solving.
Disappointed to see the comments downplaying the situation because as many people get killed in car accidents every week or whatever. Terrorist acts damage the social fabric far beyond the death toll. That's the whole point of terrorism.
I live in greece, but france is my country and I haven't heard back from my sister who lives around there. I know the odds are she's fine, but there's still the doubt in my mind. It certainly feels different when you feel affected. You want to be reactionary. You want to have a knee-jerk reaction. Maybe I now understand why people are so quick to try to blame the issue on a certain cause. But inside me I've spent my…
scrollaway, you and many others on this site make me sick.
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Flagged.
Why? Its an angry comment, but its what very many think. Don't we listen in order to understand that which we don't understand? Is only one view allowed? 15 years of this war on terror, and we have this. Something isn't working, something needs to change. I'd suggest that flagging people we don't like the sound of is one of those things we need to change.
Personal attacks on other posters of the type NoCulturalFit has been engaging in (repeatedly) on this subthread are never acceptable on HN.
> Don't we listen in order to understand that which we don't understand? Is only one view allowed?
There are many views visible in this thread that haven't been flagged. One thing that they share is that people aren't attacking each other, they are discussing ideas.
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While I wish this were true, do you not think the primary impetus is (likely) religious? I would wager these people are not crazy in any clinical sense; they have been deluded by a religious upbringing and culturally supported religious fervor. It is disingenuous to say that religion is not a contributing factor, if not the primary factor. It is like Steven Weinberg summarized: With or without [religion] you would ha…
If you go down that route you'll have a hard time explaining 'Jihad John' and the many western youths (including some that are extremely pale skinned) and that suddenly feel the need to join IS or do something else that is profoundly stupid and against their self-interests in every way.
At the larger scale, religious justifications are no more relevant than socialism's role in turning some rural Cambodians into ruthless killers (as opposed to the state-terrorism): http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything...
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I disagree, strongly. I disagree because specifically this is the reaction that these attacks are supposed to provoke leading to a further split of society and if possible an even more fertile ground for further radicalization. Essentially that's the other stroke of the piston. If you really want the engine to stop then please do not react in the way these assholes want you to. Islam has nothing to do with this whats…
You can simultaneously fight against right-wing politicians who would capitalize on terrorism and also acknowledge that these aren't "crazy people who happen to be Muslims," these are committed killers who are murdering in the name of a particular strain of revolutionary, extreme Islam. If a well-organized and philosophically consistent group of Christians were organizing mass shootings with motives gleaned from radi…
The puppeteers are the ones that matter, the 'terrorists' are for the most part tools in the hands of masters at playing them believing they are making the world a better place (and how wrong they are).
I make no distinction between idiots of any plumage, be they muslim, Christians, atheists or something else, organized or acting alone. They're a plague on society and should be dealt with, preferably long before they can become a problem in such a way that becoming a problem never even enters their minds because they're too busy living and appreciating life.
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> well above the U.S. and U.K. -- for instance, head coverings are not allowed in public schools is that even really about separation of church and state? Somehow I doubt it. Also the US takes the, IMO, "better" position of saying that individuals practicing private religion doesn't break separation of church and state. Organized religion does. Of course the US also effectively forces their children to recite a pledg…
I'm not endorsing it, but the French attitude (generally) is that religion is a private concern that doesn't belong in the public forum. They view public displays of religion by private individuals with suspicion and distaste, which is different culturally from the U.S. Like I clarified below, I don't admire that specifically -- I do admire that they treasure and protect their civic values in the face of intimidation…
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French too living in France, but sorry I am fed up of hearing that. Don't you think there's something wrong with Islam and its worshippers in the current days ? Not a single week without hearing about an attack made by islam integrists: Beiruth yesterday, Ankara few weeks ago. It is global, not a few crazy people, tens of thousands of them. Muslims in France have had hard time condeming the Charlie hebdo's attacks an…
I disagree, strongly. I disagree because specifically this is the reaction that these attacks are supposed to provoke leading to a further split of society and if possible an even more fertile ground for further radicalization. Essentially that's the other stroke of the piston. If you really want the engine to stop then please do not react in the way these assholes want you to. Islam has nothing to do with this whats…
There seems a bit of wishful thinking there. We don't know the details but it seems quite likely Islam does have something to do with this.
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I live in greece, but france is my country and I haven't heard back from my sister who lives around there. I know the odds are she's fine, but there's still the doubt in my mind. It certainly feels different when you feel affected. You want to be reactionary. You want to have a knee-jerk reaction. Maybe I now understand why people are so quick to try to blame the issue on a certain cause. But inside me I've spent my…
"marginalized group that is prone to violence by their own situation." scrollaway, you and many others on this site make me sick.