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New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by gcb0 »

pyre wrote: post #7
balls187 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Specific to the US, who do you think people will side with? Movie stars or Google Lawyers? I don't see this as being slam-dunk for either side.

The MPAA/RIAA are not "The Movie Stars" they are "The Movie Studios." It's not even that. The MPAA is an industry lobbying group that the studios are members of. There is no big name movie star that is the "face" of the MPAA.

lobbying group that can order new presidential mandates and for Angelina Jolie to adopt a dozen new kids.

you have no idea how PR works...

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by onli »

zamalek wrote: post #37
onli wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, of course it is. That is the point.

The reason I doubted is because Google are using the "MPAA is targeting us" attack (subjective at best) instead of taking them to the cleaners with stock market manipulation (written law with precedent). This means that I must be missing something and possibly there is a subtle reason why this isn't stock market manipulation. At least the article makes it sound like the stock manipulation is ancillary to Google's off…

The one thing I can think of is that the manipulation seems not to be focused on gaining money directly by the stock market manipulation. That should still be illegal, but it makes the case a bit less clear cut.

Secondly, that seems to be a plan and not something that was actually done. Still illegal, but nothing where they could say "they harmed us, they have to pay us".

The other aspect might be that a separate legal win is not what Google is after with that specific document. It is already part of a court proceeding and shall help Google counter the subpoena and further actions against Google by Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood, if I get the context right. To destroy those actions (and that man's career) would be a huge win for Google, going after specific individuals for stock price manipulation not. If I understand that right, that is something the state would have to do on its own anyway, in a normal criminal investigation, which would have to start now automatically.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by zamalek »

onli wrote: post #42
zamalek wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason I doubted is because Google are using the "MPAA is targeting us" attack (subjective at best) instead of taking them to the cleaners with stock market manipulation (written law with precedent). This means that I must be missing something and possibly there is a subtle reason why this isn't stock market manipulation. At least the article makes it sound like the stock manipulation is ancillary to Google's off…

The one thing I can think of is that the manipulation seems not to be focused on gaining money directly by the stock market manipulation. That should still be illegal, but it makes the case a bit less clear cut. Secondly, that seems to be a plan and not something that was actually done. Still illegal, but nothing where they could say "they harmed us, they have to pay us". The other aspect might be that a separate leg…

Thanks, it makes significantly more sense now.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by NicoJuicy »

venomsnake wrote: post #16
SaturateDK wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be lovely, however that probably won't happen. Seeing google might get sued for that.

Why? They are a private company, they can do whatever they want on their site (also known as the iOS censorship apologist argument)

They won't do that, they aren't MPAA, Comcast, NewsCorp or Hollywood ;-)

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by Mimu »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #13
balls187 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Specific to the US, who do you think people will side with? Movie stars or Google Lawyers? I don't see this as being slam-dunk for either side.

Who will they side with? Google or the people who keep killing their favourite movie streaming and Torrent sites?

Which side, people bringing entertainment to them or the ones destroying any private life they have left?

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by NicoJuicy »

I'm actually wondering how illegal this is? This is trying to influence the stock market and attacking 1 company without "legal" jurification. They are trying to hurt Google's through stock, this IS actually the same as stealing/taking away a billion $ (stockvalue) ... (that should be illegal, isn't it?)

They obviously failed before execution, but that shouldn't matter...

Does anyone know if Google can use this information in court for a lawsuit against MPAA?

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by verinus »

venomsnake wrote: post #11

If I were google I would choose a big upcoming multi billion Hollywood film. And just return empty pages while the marketing campaign is roaring. For the star/cast/everything. I would call it piracy prevention program - that way no one will be able to find piracy content trough google.

while i can this form an emotional point of view I would call this highly unprofessional.

nevertheless hollywood does everything to abolish itself producing only comic/computer game adaptions or se-/prequels.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by cataphract »

zamalek wrote: post #37
onli wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, of course it is. That is the point.

The reason I doubted is because Google are using the "MPAA is targeting us" attack (subjective at best) instead of taking them to the cleaners with stock market manipulation (written law with precedent). This means that I must be missing something and possibly there is a subtle reason why this isn't stock market manipulation. At least the article makes it sound like the stock manipulation is ancillary to Google's off…

I think part of the reason they're not pushing the stock price manipulation is that it would be very difficult to overcome a prosecutor's absolute immunity.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by JupiterMoon »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #46

I'm actually wondering how illegal this is? This is trying to influence the stock market and attacking 1 company without "legal" jurification. They are trying to hurt Google's through stock, this IS actually the same as stealing/taking away a billion $ (stockvalue) ... (that should be illegal, isn't it?) They obviously failed before execution, but that shouldn't matter... Does anyone know if Google can use this infor…

It is probably covered by defamation of character law (it would be in the UK at least) or by malicious litigation law.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by themartorana »

petepete wrote: post #15
venomsnake wrote: post #11

If I were google I would choose a big upcoming multi billion Hollywood film. And just return empty pages while the marketing campaign is roaring. For the star/cast/everything. I would call it piracy prevention program - that way no one will be able to find piracy content trough google.

Or boost the rankings of originals over remakes.

That is an amazing idea. Sometimes the original is as good as it's gonna get.

That said, aren't both usually owned by the same studio/company?

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