LESS is outdated now? Surely not everyone uses Sass, right?
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#42> When someone actually has built something, and it could be used by someone, they only get feedback about the size of the pages, how slow it is and that they should have used some other technology after all. I know of a certain community where this seems to happen a lot. Instead of commenting on the actual content or the idea, it's always "Their web page doesn't SCROLL the way I like!!" and "What amateurs--they shou…
Yeah, I while ago I built what I thought was a site with really neat content (I thought) but 50% of the comments were about scrolling behavior. WTF HN?
Don't screw over your content with design. Look at this place, Hacker News. Text, lots of it, all of which is perfectly readable without pagination, a fancy javscript scroller, or even images.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Messed up js scrolling often means I _can't_ read the actual content. I know WP8 isn't that common, but should I just quietly accept that yet another developer decided to "innovate" and wrote a super sexy scroller that crashes and burns on my browser?
If the site works well on every device but Windows Phone, then maybe it's not the site that's the problem.
Although I see your point (Windows Phone is not that popular) couldn't you say the same for any mainstream device? i.e. If the site works well on every device but Linux/iOS/Android it's not the site that's the problem.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've seen [lay] people [...] put down PHP Would you learn to drive on a Lada?
Conversely, should you learn to drive in a lamborghini? Tools matter as a result of what you want out of them. In this case learning to drive. They honestly don't have that much value themselves. A guy who learns to drive on a Lada can drive a Mercedes too. The same is true for programming languages, even though we love to pretend it isn't
> A guy who learns to drive on a Lada can drive a Mercedes too.
Let's continue this analogy until we swerve off the road.
Someone who learns to drive automatic is going to have a much harder time when they switch to driving a stick-shift, vs. vice versa.
Someone who learns to drive above the Arctic circle in the summer may run into trouble because they never learned how headlights, fog lights and brights work.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, PHP is kinda dangerous, especially in the hands of novices. Honestly, a world with fewer people-who've-never-written-code writing PHP doesn't sound like a bad start to me. Don't get me wrong, it's possible to write great code in PHP, it's just a language that makes it easy for you to shoot yourself in the foot.
You hear the same argument for C / C++ but you don't see people putting it down as much as PHP.
The difference is that PHP is far more accessible to the average beginner than C/C++.
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#46to me this sounds like complaining about evolution (in the biological terms). things are evolving, some experiments are failing, better ways of doing things are emerging. is it stressful? sure. can one at sometimes feel overwhelmed? absolutely. it's always a balance between getting things done and evolving the way you craft your things. all things that are successful are build on other things. it's extremely rare to…
Better ways are not emerging though, or they haven't yet.
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#47> When someone actually has built something, and it could be used by someone, they only get feedback about the size of the pages, how slow it is and that they should have used some other technology after all. I know of a certain community where this seems to happen a lot. Instead of commenting on the actual content or the idea, it's always "Their web page doesn't SCROLL the way I like!!" and "What amateurs--they shou…
One time an HN headline took me to an article written on pastebin; the HN comments were not full of UI complaints.
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#49This wasn't really explicit in the article, but a lot of it came across as frustration at the overwhelming negativity or snarkiness in forums/mailing lists/etc. If so, I think that's just the consequence of these forms of communication not scaling well as more and more and more people participate in them. It's so common to hear people complain about how their chosen Internet communities aren't like they used to be- e…
I agree with much of your comment.
At the same, it's also true that people have generally gotten nastier towards one another.
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#50> When someone actually has built something, and it could be used by someone, they only get feedback about the size of the pages, how slow it is and that they should have used some other technology after all. I know of a certain community where this seems to happen a lot. Instead of commenting on the actual content or the idea, it's always "Their web page doesn't SCROLL the way I like!!" and "What amateurs--they shou…
Yeah, I while ago I built what I thought was a site with really neat content (I thought) but 50% of the comments were about scrolling behavior. WTF HN?
The quality of your content is irrelevant if your website doesn't work at all or annoys me into closing it before I've read any significant amount of it. Should I not complain about the scrolling when I literally can't read past the first two paragraphs because every time I try to scroll down it instead switches to some other article or does nothing at all? It's like having a book where the pages are all glued together and then complaining that people only talk about the glue.