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Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

#41

god...you know how hard is to make 250k in London?? this article is stupid. to give you an idea a well paid devops job that woudl pay about 130 in the US , pays about 80K GBP here in the UK. 250K is for bankers or something man this article is bollooooooox

Drug dealers are doing OK.

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

#42

god...you know how hard is to make 250k in London?? this article is stupid. to give you an idea a well paid devops job that woudl pay about 130 in the US , pays about 80K GBP here in the UK. 250K is for bankers or something man this article is bollooooooox

Devops contract rate seems to be around £450/day (at the low end). Assuming 21 days per month and 2 months off per year, you'd be looking at £94500 revenue. As a contractor you could expect to pay as little as 25% total tax, but if we assume 30% you're looking at taking home £5.5k per month. Which is a grand more than an £80k salary (with an extra month off).

If you're married and have your SO as a shareholder, thus splitting the tax load you can almost match a £200k salary on a day rate of ~£700 (I have seen a few devops type roles getting up towards that figure).

So, I agree that £250k salary is very top end, but there are certainly contracts in the finance industry that pay enough to get you close if you change the way you're paid.

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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I should also chime in and say that even for people living in London and sending their children to private schools these estimates are very high. I was luck enough to go to Eton and honestly, for most parents it was a question of affording the fees by: a) not spending that kind of money on other activities; b) lifelong saving; c) selling substantial assets (like second houses etc...); and d) inherited wealth and/or g…

Is that double-counting babysitting and sending the kids to boarding school? It's certainly a tradition of the English aristocracy to spend as little time with your children as possible.

Haha - I hadn't even considered this. So yeah - the cost of childcare is largely not going to overlap with the cost of private education (where that private education includes accomodation of course).

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I fully agree with that - in fact, in certain other European countries it is more like 0.10%, but that's not the point. The point is - I don't understand all the whining going on here. If I make £500K a year, and I gave it up for £20K a year, would that really make any of you better off? REALLY?

Given that London house prices are a function of supply and demand, if everyone on £500k did that then I personally would be a lot better off.

Alas, I suspect supply will be very carefully managed to ensure that voters in the UK do not have their main asset devalued over the next 10 to 15 years or so.

After that, enough younger people will be renting for the balance to flip and the price correction to occur.

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

#45
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So, everyone here is bothered that people like to eat well and take family vacations (is this really your definition of "luxury" lifestyle? You guys sound like coal mine workers.) But you're all perfectly fine with the government taking close to half of that income in taxes. Were you all raised in a communist regime?

People scoff at these articles because they give the impression that the people involved are barely able to scrape by. The "we know how poor people feel because after our 2x mortgages 4x holidays 3x private school fees 3x car expenses and 2x weekly nights out, we don't have any money left either" syndrome ;) (A line of thinking that is surprisingly common. Keep an eye out for it!)

This tends to amuse me, but it does seem to make some people angry. Few of them seem to be in this thread, though. Certainly not enough to count as "everyone here".

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

#46
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Tldr: no, but if we redefine "live in London" as "live in Zone 1, take family of four skiing in France four times a year, send kids to private school from age 3, always eat at Michelin starred restaurants, own multiples of everything Apple ever releases, any other stupid consumerism you can think of" then yes.

How do you define smart consumerism? Or do you just hate consumerism in general?

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

#47

I just about to buy a house outside of London. I'm also about to send my 2 kids to private school as all the decent local state schools are full with waiting lists (thankfully a lot cheaper than the figures mentioned here). I had a look at one of the options for commuting into London. This is the quickest option from where I am (via HS1). I'm already up to the following monthly expenses: Mortgage: £3200 School Fees:…

School fees for two of £1375 a month seems pretty reasonable compared to what I thought. What kind of standard of school do you get for that? What age? Day or boarding? Does that include things like uniforms, sports and trips?

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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Scholarships still in evidence at all?

Absolutely! For a start 17 students each year are fully funded. Then there are 25 additional fully funded scholariship students are taken on at the beginning of the penultimate year (called 6th form year in the UK). Added to these are are lots of partial scholarships available, though the ways in which these are funded and obtained are a little more roundabout. The Music department in particular often gave prospectiv…

Good to hear that. Helps to keep the charitable status I suppose.

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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How much is that person spending on rent in London?

Between £1k and £2k. You'll be a frequent customer of Wonga. Edit Proletariat: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-5304414... Bourgeois: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-5061904...

your Bourgeois link is not even in London....

For a family with Kid, youar completely missing it: Preletariat 4k : http://www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/37300477?search_iden... Bourgois: 6.5k: http://www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/37341550?search_iden...

Re: Minimum salary required in London: £500k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much is that person spending on rent in London?

Between £1k and £2k. You'll be a frequent customer of Wonga. Edit Proletariat: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-5304414... Bourgeois: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-5061904...

If you're a single twenty-something you can flatshare and spend a third of that money.
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