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A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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>Academia disagrees with you No it doesn't, a few studies do. I believe this is exactly the kind of pretentious language the individual was talking about.

I see that I was dismissive with those words; I should have phrased that citation carefully.

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Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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I can say, hands down, MDMA cured me from all and any social anxiety, it showed me that no-one gives a fuck, everybody is just the same and wants to be heard. Its so funny, every time links like this gets posted I just nod and think "Poor bastards, they haven't figured it out yet?" It's been 8 years since I did MDMA, so far no negatives as far as I can tell. Obviously, as with any strong drug/psychedelic, you will be…

Counter anecdote: I did plenty of MDMA 10+ years ago and I have just as much social anxiety now as I did then. Yes, it is alleviated for the few hours you are inebriated, but alcohol mostly has the same effect for me, anxiety relief wise. No long term relief and a profound reversal the next day. The last times I did MDMA were so unpleasant by the end of the trip that I get anxiety thinking about doing it, a decade later.

I now also have generalized anxiety. While I doubt it has anything to do with MDMA, I would strongly caution people to not self administer substituted amphetamines for psychiatric disorders.

Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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I took a fair amount of the stuff back in the 1980s -- at one point I estimated my cumulative total consumption as around 15 grams. (I'm sure there are people far beyond that now.) It is definitely neurotoxic -- I could tell that the first time I took it -- but in my experience, the noticeable effects are temporary, being mostly gone in a couple of weeks and quite undetectable after a couple of months. As a software…

Same experience here. I took 0.1g to close to 1g on several occasions over a couple years. Doses in the 0.1-0.2g range would leave me fairly slow the next day, but that's it. With heavier doses I'd see after-effects for about a week (like reaching for my phone and pulling a lighter from my pocket, disconnecting in the middle of a conversation, losing track of time) The only time it took a long time to fully recover (…

1 gram is an oversose.

I did that twice and was getting vertigo for a week after. Same with my friends.

I'd say fair amount per night is 2x0.1 grams per night.

Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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Maybe I am overly sensitive to these things but I recall really embarrassing things people have done and have a hard time not associating those actions with the person. I think the reason people are socially anxious is not because they think people 'give a fuck' but rather because they're confused by social signals / body language / verbal cues and that sort of thing. They don't know how to mesh and mingle properly w…

There is no 'proper' way to mesh and mingle with a crowd.

There's a lot of improper ways.

Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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If a medical researcher says that a chemical has potential benefit to alleviate suffering, then it's NOT up to politicians to decide if they can. Obviously, that's my opinion and it's not shared by American politicians.

Ironically, Al Franken probably does share your opinion. :)

Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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I can say, hands down, MDMA cured me from all and any social anxiety, it showed me that no-one gives a fuck, everybody is just the same and wants to be heard. Its so funny, every time links like this gets posted I just nod and think "Poor bastards, they haven't figured it out yet?" It's been 8 years since I did MDMA, so far no negatives as far as I can tell. Obviously, as with any strong drug/psychedelic, you will be…

Counter anecdote: I did plenty of MDMA 10+ years ago and I have just as much social anxiety now as I did then. Yes, it is alleviated for the few hours you are inebriated, but alcohol mostly has the same effect for me, anxiety relief wise. No long term relief and a profound reversal the next day. The last times I did MDMA were so unpleasant by the end of the trip that I get anxiety thinking about doing it, a decade la…

Right. Of course there might be a big difference between taking plenty of MDMA for recreational purposes and taking it under a controlled dosage and environment. Or maybe MDMA really isn't a viable treatment. Or maybe it just works for some people. It is impossible to know more without proper scientific research.

Anyone who studies the history of science should be worried by the amount of power that politicians currently have over what scientists can and cannot study. There was a time after the renaissance when universities in Europe where granted almost total independence from the state. My university had its own police force and jail, at one point. This was a time when civilization advanced rapidly, and many of the ideas that we take for granted now were explored.

Now universities are very much part of the system. I am afraid that we are entering the high-tech dark ages.

Re: A new study urges trials of MDMA to treat anxiety in autistic adults

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Counter anecdote: I did plenty of MDMA 10+ years ago and I have just as much social anxiety now as I did then. Yes, it is alleviated for the few hours you are inebriated, but alcohol mostly has the same effect for me, anxiety relief wise. No long term relief and a profound reversal the next day. The last times I did MDMA were so unpleasant by the end of the trip that I get anxiety thinking about doing it, a decade la…

Right. Of course there might be a big difference between taking plenty of MDMA for recreational purposes and taking it under a controlled dosage and environment. Or maybe MDMA really isn't a viable treatment. Or maybe it just works for some people. It is impossible to know more without proper scientific research. Anyone who studies the history of science should be worried by the amount of power that politicians curre…

100% agreed that research access should be expanded, especially in light of the fact that these sort of drugs are unpredictable in their contents when obtained illicitly. Moving MDMA from schedule I to schedule II in the US would be a huge help. Despite my anecdotal warnings, its not a substance that doesnt merit further research.
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