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Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#41

Post by rob_lh »

ignoramous wrote: post #38

IMO, the most game changing feature announced today is 'Now on tap' Google isn't releasing more details on it, but with it, Google would be able to understand what you do, when you do it, who your pals are, who you go out to movies with, who you chat with the most, are you looking to quit your job, are you about to break up, are you going through a depression and so on... They haven't revealed anything about how exac…

I am curious if this will be a source of friction with app developers. If Google is scraping app data usage for both content and context ostensibly to extend the benefit of that app's data and utility, wouldn't that make it considerably easier for them to clone the app and improve upon it?

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#42

Post by calvin_c »

frik wrote: post #37

Permissions "We are giving users control of app permissions in the M release. Apps can trigger requests for permissions at runtime, in the right context, and users can choose whether to grant the permission. Making permission requests right when they’re needed means users can get up and running in your app faster. Also, users have easy access to manage all their app permissions in settings." Great, finally Google got…

They've actually set the number of permission groups to 8. But at least you can accept/decline each individually.

EDIT: The permission groups are

Location

Camera

Microphone

Contacts

Phone

SMS

Calendar

Sensor

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#43

Post by nacs »

mahouse wrote: post #40
isbadawi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you referring to?

The image is blurry and the colours are dithered. This really looks good to you? https://i.imgur.com/r3HZWyG.png

That was probably just a poor attempt by whoever edited the screenshot to de-emphasize the app in the background and highlight the actual permission dialog.

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#45

Post by CardenB »

rob_lh wrote: post #41
ignoramous wrote: post #38

IMO, the most game changing feature announced today is 'Now on tap' Google isn't releasing more details on it, but with it, Google would be able to understand what you do, when you do it, who your pals are, who you go out to movies with, who you chat with the most, are you looking to quit your job, are you about to break up, are you going through a depression and so on... They haven't revealed anything about how exac…

I am curious if this will be a source of friction with app developers. If Google is scraping app data usage for both content and context ostensibly to extend the benefit of that app's data and utility, wouldn't that make it considerably easier for them to clone the app and improve upon it?

I don't think the same engineers that work on products like some new app even have access to the kind of data that would come from that feature, nor does that sort of snooping even occur at google. It's not the NSA

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#46

Post by mahouse »

nacs wrote: post #43
mahouse wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The image is blurry and the colours are dithered. This really looks good to you? https://i.imgur.com/r3HZWyG.png

That was probably just a poor attempt by whoever edited the screenshot to de-emphasize the app in the background and highlight the actual permission dialog.

The permission dialog is also blurry and dithered. It's just barely noticeable because it's mostly white, but it's there also.

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#47

Post by e40 »

frik wrote: post #37

Permissions "We are giving users control of app permissions in the M release. Apps can trigger requests for permissions at runtime, in the right context, and users can choose whether to grant the permission. Making permission requests right when they’re needed means users can get up and running in your app faster. Also, users have easy access to manage all their app permissions in settings." Great, finally Google got…

Agreed. This is the main reason I root my phone, so I can run Xposed + App Ops.

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#48

Post by e40 »

calvin_c wrote: post #42
frik wrote: post #37

Permissions "We are giving users control of app permissions in the M release. Apps can trigger requests for permissions at runtime, in the right context, and users can choose whether to grant the permission. Making permission requests right when they’re needed means users can get up and running in your app faster. Also, users have easy access to manage all their app permissions in settings." Great, finally Google got…

They've actually set the number of permission groups to 8. But at least you can accept/decline each individually. EDIT: The permission groups are Location Camera Microphone Contacts Phone SMS Calendar Sensor

What I see missing, that Xposed + App Ops gives me is the "Keep Awake"... having revoked this permission from almost all non-Google apps, my battery life is a full 50% longer than other people with my phone report.

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#49

Post by rentnorove »

calvin_c wrote: post #42
frik wrote: post #37

Permissions "We are giving users control of app permissions in the M release. Apps can trigger requests for permissions at runtime, in the right context, and users can choose whether to grant the permission. Making permission requests right when they’re needed means users can get up and running in your app faster. Also, users have easy access to manage all their app permissions in settings." Great, finally Google got…

They've actually set the number of permission groups to 8. But at least you can accept/decline each individually. EDIT: The permission groups are Location Camera Microphone Contacts Phone SMS Calendar Sensor

Conspicuously absent:

- Read external storage

- Internet

Re: Android M Developer Preview and Tools

#50

Post by jbigelow76 »

CardenB wrote: post #45
rob_lh wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am curious if this will be a source of friction with app developers. If Google is scraping app data usage for both content and context ostensibly to extend the benefit of that app's data and utility, wouldn't that make it considerably easier for them to clone the app and improve upon it?

I don't think the same engineers that work on products like some new app even have access to the kind of data that would come from that feature, nor does that sort of snooping even occur at google. It's not the NSA

That attitude seems naive. Google took a stab at replacing Wikipedia with Google Knol, Yelp (or was it Foursquare) with Google Places, and that's just two examples that spring to mind. It seems expected that Google would mine its own data for trends and look at how they could use that data to drive new app development or make existing third party apps irrelevant by rolling new features into Google Now, even if that data is mined only "in aggregate".
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