Thanks for highlighting 2 things: "Level UP your HTML" and "Two-way data binding".. Already made my decision, stick with react! (:
Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
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Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#42I've been playing around with RiotJs (actually committed some fixes/features to the repo). I think what is attractive about both Riot and React is that everything is "defined" in JavaScript, there isn't really a separation of markup and behavior. Each little module can act an individual component. React has gone a step further and has shown that the DOM doesn't really matter...your React code could create native apps…
Cool question. Please take a look at OneScript - https://github.com/astoilkov/OneScript and share your opinion. I believe this is the next step in developing applications. Bringing HTML, CSS and JavaScript in one place where components are modular and small.
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#43This is interesting but the performance comparison is a moot point for me. React also has React Native, the pros of a faster isomorphic javascript framework working in the browser is not a very strong selling point in a world where native apps are dominating the mobile web. React will help me reach more platforms.
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#44People here dismissing this framework due to 'fatigue' or 'overexposure'. It's weird as I don't recall hearing this when React started to see adoption 8 months ago.
React was released by Facebook as a mature project. There wasn't much doubt as to whether it would be at least worth considering. There also may have been fewer JavaScript frameworks released that month (Dekku came out something like last week).
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#45This is interesting but the performance comparison is a moot point for me. React also has React Native, the pros of a faster isomorphic javascript framework working in the browser is not a very strong selling point in a world where native apps are dominating the mobile web. React will help me reach more platforms. http://cdixon.org/2014/04/07/the-decline-of-the-mobile-web/
Yeah definitely. It is hard to be compared to React which is built within Facebook. I am happy to even get here. :)
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#46I'd be more interested to see a performance comparison with Mithril[1] rather than React, their core functionality is similar but Mitril strives to be lean and fast.
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#47> Isomorphic JavaScript Framework No. Just no.
Is this just criticism of the "isomorphic" term? I'm not a fan of it either ("isomorphic" already has a different well-defined meaning in CS), but it does seem to have some traction now. Perhaps you have an alternative term you'd prefer these frameworks used?
I've seen "progressive javascript"[1] and "heterogeneous javascript". Both of which are much better IMHO.
[1]: https://medium.com/the-thinkmill/making-the-case-for-progres...
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#48I think it's great that there is such an amount of active development in the JS sphere, and I'm sure your framework is fantastic - so don't take this as directed at your framework specifically. That being said... I am however feeling so overexposed to new libraries and frameworks that I can hardly muster the energy to even look at it. I constantly feel that I'm behind on my homework having to evaluate new libraries a…
I'm sure some scientist said the same thing about some early stage germ of a discovery once upon a time. But it's true, we still get very far along with Newtonian physics, we don't need a full working knowledge of quantum mechanics to get our jobs done day-to-day. Not that what we're doing is anything comparable, but maybe the analogy fits somewhat.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is, it's our fault that recruiters are now asking for Angular, because we sold our employers on Angular and built their apps in Angular. Now that Angular is mainstream and has fallen out of fashion, they need to hire more developers to maintain all those Angular apps we built for them.
What is problem for you - for some might be job security :) And I think Angular is still very much in fashion. At least this is impression I am getting from occasional talks with random recruiters.
Right, his point is that it's in fashion with employers and recruiters because there are things to be maintained and sometimes even built. Where everyone else on HN that stays up with JS is trying to things with maybe a reactjs, or this, now.
Re: Show HN: An Isomorphic JavaScript Framework Faster Than React
#50Top article on the front page of Hacker News as I write this, and not a single positive comment below. Great job, guys... To the author: I think the homepage looks great, the examples are clear and informative, and I would definitely give this a try if I weren't wed to a couple of other frameworks right now.
I think a lot of the negativity has to do with the marketing. This isn't being sold as "a cool thing I made", but "Better MV-ish Framework" and "Faster than React". If you try to position it as better than existing alternatives, HN commenters will tear it down if they don't think it makes the cut. If you put it out as "exploring interesting new approaches", I think you're likely to see a lot less negativity here.
Compare to the launch of Mithril: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7421652
EDIT: Actually, revisiting this, the problem may be more with the fact that it hit the front page than the fact it has a lot of negative comments. If nobody here seems to like it, how did it get 182 upvotes? That seems like a problem with our community, eg; upvoting before actually looking at the article. (Note: I don't mean to comment on whether this is a good framework, just that the HN community doesn't seem to like it much).