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Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
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Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#42> Today I showed up at 9:06 and was told to go home for the day, and to come back on time on Monday. This blows my mind. Are you a contractor or salaried? If you are salaried they are idiots (for throwing away a day of work while paying for it) and if you are a contractor I question their ability to require you to show up in the office a certain time... I personally think that caring about "asses in seats" is a terri…
I agree with all but your last point, or at least think there needs to be an exception. If you want extra time to do other things then having a low pressure job is nice, even if you get paid less.
I've definitely met my fair share of people who would gladly take a 50% pay cut if they could only work 50% of the time they do. Feel free to replace 50% with 80% or whatever.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#43should I be trying to fix this ~6 year behavior of running late?
Yes, really, you need to. From the subtext of your post, you seem to be late all the time and unable to fix your behavior. Your boss may be doing you a favor, to force you to reconsider that behavior. If you don't improve, I would expect you'll get fired eventually.
If I run a weekly meeting at 9am and you have been late every single time for the last 6 months, I'm going to be very unhappy. This has nothing to do with whether you do a good job the rest of the time.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#44Any programming job that cares about you being consistently 5 minutes late to a 9am start time is not one worth keeping.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#45go back in on Monday, and from now on your start time is 8am.
when you get there at 8.06 you're 54 mins early.
relax, walk around and say hi to folks, grab coffee and settle in.
they're sending you a harsh msg, but you're not fired. respect it, yourself and them and get your shit together.
keep going in at 8am until you move on to another company ...then reevaluate in that context.
edit: ps I've had similar problems over the years and it's a struggle. keep trying to get better at respecting other's time.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#46At least in the Valley, hours tend to be flexible, at my current position, people walk in between 8 and 11. My team's stand up is at 11 so the rule is be in the office before them, but even then sending an email saying that traffic was bad, or Bart is dumb, or you're waiting for Fedex is okay (the assumption being you'll join the standup remotely and get some work from from home). With the large companies that have s…
Depends on the company - I had a tech lead who once tried to mandate that all engineers on the team be in by 9:30 here in the Valley at a startup. I laughed when he told me that and said "Good luck getting that to happen" to him. He quickly learned that nobody was going to listen to him on that.
It's not even that I was against going in early - I'm typically in around 7-8 am. I just knew other engineers typically wouldn't.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#47Your problem is not that you're late. Your problem is that you lack respect for other people's time.
If you really think there's no need for you to be there at 9am, talk to your employer about it and try to get flexible time. Although I suspect you'll end up pushing it to the limit. In any case, please be aware that people shouldn't be waiting for you and that's highly disrespectful to not show up on time.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#48Being late sometimes is ok but every time for ~6 years ?
When people ask you to come at a certain time they are asking you if they can trust you to be here at that time. By arriving late deliberately you have abused their trust and been dishonest.
This is not a professional problem that you are having, it is a human problem : it is disrespect.
Re: Ask HN: Always late to the office, is this OK?
#49I noticed that most of the "fuck them" answers here are from people who interpret the situation in the most convenient way, that is to say, pointedly ignoring the general case and focusing on the specific. OP says s/he's always late. But everybody responding "fuck the boss who sent you home" is explicitly assuming that OP being sent home is an isolated incident instead of part of a pattern. The thread title says alwa…
The meeting starts when I get there. Learned it from one of my bosses. Generally but not always he was right. There are times when it matters, those times in most businesses don't occur everyday at 8:59:59. There's a contradiction in declaring 5 minutes so valuable yet wasting 480 minutes by sending someone home.
>The meeting starts when I get there. Learned it from one of my bosses
This is equivalent to saying "I am the most important person in the room every time". Even if it's true, it's a destructive and disrespectful message to be sending constantly. And if it isn't true, it's disingenuous on top of being destructive.