They are too focused on the one OS for everything meme. Apple does it better with iOS and MacOS. Yes you will (presumably) be able to run Office across all devices but they're not really the same programs on each platform. The UI will still be different because it has to be.
Introducing Windows 10 Editions
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Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#42Hah, Microsoft's DNA returns with a vengeance.
They tried to change, but couldn't /not/ segment their market, even if it impairs the customer experience. That's the MS we all know and love!
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#43Dear Microsoft,
Windows 10.
Just release Windows 10.
No one knows the difference between Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Extreme and Windows 10 Cool Ranch Doritos Locos Supreme. Your customers actually don't care.
And as long as you keep selling a baffling array of variations on the same product, no one will believe you've turned over a new leaf.
Windows 10.
With love,
Guy on the Internet
PS: There should be no "it's even more secure" version. They should all be "even more secure."
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. A simple "Windows 10" with no subtitle would really make things easier for the consumer. Appending 'Home' on what is really a feature reduced version of Windows 10 doesn't seem to be in the best interest of the customer.
Define "Feature Reduced"? Lack of Domain? HyperV? Remote Desktop options? What features are people "losing" with Home that 95% of "Home" users "need"? Sure... You and I can't live without half of those things, but home users generally won't notice - or care - if HyperV is missing. You pay more for Pro/Enterprise because it has added features that Power Users/Businesses need. Glass Half Empty/Full... Potato/Patato...…
Remote Desktop is almost essential for "home" users, as it allows remote guidance through the computer.
>You pay more for Pro/Enterprise because it has added features that Power Users/Businesses need.
Do you really? When negotiating large licenses with volume discounts, does Microsoft really end up charging more for each install than they do with the Home options?
How many consumers pay for the Pro or Enterprise versions, and how much money does Microsoft actually make on that small price differential, compared to how much the market segmentation costs them in terms of consumer confusion and dismay?
Clearly MS knows these answers better than I do, but I also don't really trust their marketing teams to execute that well in the consumer space. Sure, they are awesome in the business sphere, but they really suck when it comes to consumers.
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. A simple "Windows 10" with no subtitle would really make things easier for the consumer. Appending 'Home' on what is really a feature reduced version of Windows 10 doesn't seem to be in the best interest of the customer.
Define "Feature Reduced"? Lack of Domain? HyperV? Remote Desktop options? What features are people "losing" with Home that 95% of "Home" users "need"? Sure... You and I can't live without half of those things, but home users generally won't notice - or care - if HyperV is missing. You pay more for Pro/Enterprise because it has added features that Power Users/Businesses need. Glass Half Empty/Full... Potato/Patato...…
Full-disk encryption is something people want even if they don't realize it. Android, iOS, OS X and Linux have encryption built in, whereas BitLocker for Windows comes with the Pro version only.
Normal people also want Remote Desktop, again, even if they don't realize it. That's how I'm able to debug the problems that my parents are having, from a distance.
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#46OK they messed it up, again? Anyone with a laptop preloaded with the crippled Home edition (meaning most laptops) will not be able to take it to the work place and connect it to the domain. Then there's Pro and Enterprise, and most people don't know why they need Enterprise.
Some devices include Windows 8.1 Pro, see for example the Surface Pro 3.
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#47Please Microsoft, just one Windows 10, the technical side sounds great(one OS runs everywhere) but your marketing guy is messing things up, the list of various window10 flavors made me dizzy and I had to quit reading quickly.
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#48Good lord... With all the stride MS has made and they STILL insist on releasing 1 million different versions of Windows... How stupid do you have to be to continue to do this?
Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions
#49They are too focused on the one OS for everything meme. Apple does it better with iOS and MacOS. Yes you will (presumably) be able to run Office across all devices but they're not really the same programs on each platform. The UI will still be different because it has to be.
The UI will adapt on the Universal App Plattform as well, because it has to. So not really sure where the argument for Apple is here.
A good analogy is responsive design for websites. It can have a few advantages to have a mobile and a desktop version seperate, but i don't think its always better, and i don't think its the future.