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Re: I have something to hide

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Post by abandonliberty »

pierreozoux wrote: post #12
juanito wrote: post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

The name is provacative, it is on purpose. A better phrase could have been, "we, as a society, have things to hide from companies and government", but it was too long :)

how about 'wehavesomethingtohide' ?

I understand that we're in an individualistic society, and that personal concerns are more effective at driving behavior than societal concerns, but as the responses here show that many people equate hiding with guilt we might as well address both :)

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

mhurron wrote: post #40
01Michael10 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, we all have something to hide.

Exactly. The phrase 'something to hide' has become synonymous with 'something illegal' or 'you're doing something wrong', when in reality everyone has things they simply wish to keep private.

'I have something to keep private' isn't as punchy. Also it doesn't go far enough. 'My entire life is private' is closer. Of course my public interactions aren't AS private; but still largely private (its nobody's business what laundry detergent I buy at the public supermarket).

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by goodcanadian »

ndarilek wrote: post #36
juanito wrote: post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

All of the below examples aside, why not? Why should your wanting to hide something be any more sinister than what you want for dinner? And if you yourself don't have anything to hide, awesome. Is it not worth protecting my right to hide things should I want or need to? There are many reasons to desire privacy other than wanting or needing to hide something. The existence of this site does not invalidate those. But o…

If you don't think I have anything to hide, why are you so intent on looking?

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by aesthetics1 »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #16

Has uBlock reached "just werks" status (not referring to ease of installation)? It was still really unwieldy in terms of what it blocked/didn't block last time I tried it out when there was a thread on it. First time I'm hearing about Disconnect. Is it really all it's hacked up to be? On first glance to me, they have a pretty package but I feel like in practice they are just as furtive as Ghostery is with the promise…

uBlock is constantly blocking things that I actually would like to see. Wasn't able to download msu packages from Microsoft's website without turning it off as recently as last week.

It seems to hog less resources than AdBlock/etc, but I still find it breaking a lot of things. Maybe I need to tweak the settings, but with that in mind, I don't consider it to be "just working!"

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by rgbrgb »

"Would you allow a stranger to enter your home, and look around?"

Yeah, that's how you make friends. Certainly not into government spying but this is a ridiculous comparison.

Reminds me of those piracy ads that try to convince you not to download music by saying "you wouldn't download a car". It's like pretty different and of course I'd love to download a car.

I'm down for the cause but I don't think talking to people like they're idiots is a good way to rally support.

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by tedunangst »

enraged_camel wrote: post #32
juanito wrote: post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

Care to elaborate on the details of your most recent sexually-intimate encounter? ... That's what I thought. Everyone has something they don't want others to know.

Is there no distinction between hiding something and choosing not to discuss it?

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by signaler »

Could be relevant: http://blog.higg.so/2015/04/29/do-ad-blockers-and-anti-track... I wrote this in response to all the silver bullets being offered as a solution to fingerprinting. It turns out, it's a hard problem and not a quick fix. A small excerpt:

"The EFF have released a tool called Panopticlick that creates a lossy hash of your browser. The idea behind the tool is to issue each user with a very unique browser footprint that is used to definitely verify you are the person visiting a page. I stress the importance of definitely because the tool can zoom right in to an individual at the personal level, or a small sample size of users. (More on sample sizes later). Especially concerning about fingerprinting is how accurate it can be. If a useragent is changed, something else will give an identity away like the fonts installed on a machine, the pixel depth of a screen, or the time you visit a page. Flash and JavaScript are typically disabled by users now because they can prove too invasive"

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by pierreozoux »

rgbrgb wrote: post #46

"Would you allow a stranger to enter your home, and look around?" Yeah, that's how you make friends. Certainly not into government spying but this is a ridiculous comparison. Reminds me of those piracy ads that try to convince you not to download music by saying "you wouldn't download a car". It's like pretty different and of course I'd love to download a car. I'm down for the cause but I don't think talking to peopl…

Would you give me your email and password?

Re: I have something to hide

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Post by goodcanadian »

cyphunk wrote: post #35
enraged_camel wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate on the details of your most recent sexually-intimate encounter? ... That's what I thought. Everyone has something they don't want others to know.

I hear this response often to the "i have nothing to hide" camp. Feels to me like we would have something better to say. Pointing to one thing most clearly wish to hide is just not a good comparison with the digital breadcrumbs we throw around. They dont compare. We have all come to accept that some people are able to know when you walk down the street past their store, if they wish. The bus driving is free to mental…

OK. Supposedly,I have no expectation of privacy when I am out in public. Certainly, anyone could see me go into a particular store. That is not the same as following me around everywhere and noting down everything I am doing. Most people would call that stalking. So what if I have nothing to hide? It is still creepy and inappropriate. This is my main objection to widespread surveillance cameras and an analogous argument applies to my online activity.
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