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CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #39

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Does that mean when I make a request to reddit or HN, CF fetches the data and I get it through their proxy? Or am I missing something ...

Yes.

And to tack on - this is how they act like a CDN. In general they don't pull CSS, images, etc every time from your server - they pull it once, then cache it at edge locations.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #6

Is it going to be beta or alpha, like most Google Cloud services?

Google Product Manager here. Not sure why you think most Google Cloud Services are in beta. The Google Cloud products page [1] lists 17 main products. Two are in alpha (Container Engine, Deployment Manager), one is in beta (Pub/Sub). The rest are fully supported. There are some beta features here and there...but saying "most" are in beta is certainly not correct. [1] https://cloud.google.com/products/

The Google Cloud products page [1] lists 17 main products. Two are in alpha (Container Engine, Deployment Manager), one is in beta (Pub/Sub). The rest are fully supported.

Wait a second. I just clicked though the items on that page, and the following are listed as alpha:

  Container Engine
  Cloud Dataflow
  Cloud Deployment Manager
The following are in Beta:

  HTTP/HTTPS Load Balancing
  Virtual Private Network
  Cloud Pub/Sub
  Cloud Monitoring
  Cloud Logging
If these aren't in beta/alpha, then maybe you should update your docs.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes.

And to tack on - this is how they act like a CDN. In general they don't pull CSS, images, etc every time from your server - they pull it once, then cache it at edge locations.

Got it, cool.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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My understanding is that they basically "fast flux" IPs to funnel traffic for targeted attack to a specific data center. So, while you normally may be sharing IPs, if an enterprise customer's website example.com starts getting attacked they will put it on dedicated IPs, then broadcast those IPs from one or two data centers. They will then reroute all other enterprise traffic away from those data centers, thus minimiz…

Thanks for this comment. I guess, along with jgrahamc's sibling comment, you have to make a routing decision based on (source, port) at most if you have a fixed IP, since HTTPS ports are stupidly fixed. That is 32+16 bits of info at most, so an ethernet MACs worth. So now I can clarify my question as follows: with X bits of data, what is the present state-of-the-art latency wrt to routing T Gbps of traffic. And it's…

As a further observation, it makes the GitHub attack an interesting case study. You now have to further route on the GET target, and if traffic is encrypted, the routing decision is moved to a later stage.

In order to protect latency to other GET targets, you're going to have to start doing interesting things.

One future solution I can see is multipath-tcp the anomalous traffic, and closing the original connection. But at that point you have to refilter based on genuine vs malicious traffic, and then there's the encrypted state you have to share for the proper stream handover. Ooof... what a nightmare.

At least it's an interesting one. :)

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #6

Is it going to be beta or alpha, like most Google Cloud services?

Google Product Manager here. Not sure why you think most Google Cloud Services are in beta. The Google Cloud products page [1] lists 17 main products. Two are in alpha (Container Engine, Deployment Manager), one is in beta (Pub/Sub). The rest are fully supported. There are some beta features here and there...but saying "most" are in beta is certainly not correct. [1] https://cloud.google.com/products/

Managed VM's, PHP and Go on Appengine are all beta as well.

Autoscaler and Instance Groups on compute engine are beta as well.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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I wonder if this is one of those strategic deals that would lead to an acquisition. With the push surrounding cloud and Google actively competing hard in this space, it would make a lot of sense.

Oh wow, Google is already on every site with Analytics, imagine if they were also the SSL host/WAF/CDN/DNS host for every major property?

It would fit in well with their silent yet never ending reach across the internet.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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I wonder if this is one of those strategic deals that would lead to an acquisition. With the push surrounding cloud and Google actively competing hard in this space, it would make a lot of sense.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #47

I wonder if this is one of those strategic deals that would lead to an acquisition. With the push surrounding cloud and Google actively competing hard in this space, it would make a lot of sense.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

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Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #47

I wonder if this is one of those strategic deals that would lead to an acquisition. With the push surrounding cloud and Google actively competing hard in this space, it would make a lot of sense.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does

You mean this service? https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/service

PageSpeed Service is in a limited field trial, and is not currently accepting new signups

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does You mean this service? https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/service PageSpeed Service is in a limited field trial, and is not currently accepting new signups

Oh, I didn't know they closed signups. I've been using it for some personal projects for a good while (Since 2011 or so?) now.
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