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Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by imdsm » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:00 PM UTC

riffraff wrote: post #34

petercooper wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anyone outside of a total beginner or a newly created company who hasn't had an AWS account for over a year now? I don't even use mine a lot (mostly S3) but signed up very early on just to check it out, as with most things, so I wonder how relevant Amazon's free tier even is now.

you might have an AWS account but not necessarily to run a web app, cause you're in the "meh, I'd rather do git push heroku now than learn to setup elastic beanstalk/opsworks+docker/ec2+deis". The latter becomes more attractive now, and once you have learned to use AWS's X tech to run $SILLY_SERVICE you might end up using it for $SERIOUS_SERVICE.

I am in charge of a high volume, medium sized deis setup, and have been actively using deis since 0.2.0, but I don't have that kind of setup for my personal blog. It's overkill. Heroku is easier and allows me to get one with development, so I use Heroku.

It's not so much a "meh, I'd rather do git push heroku now than learn to setup elastic beanstalk/opsworks+docker/ec2+deis" than it is a "I just want to develop a quick idea without wasting time on ops".

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by imdsm » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:03 PM UTC

sleepyhead wrote: post #39

As a paying customer I am glad that Heroku is cutting down on the free usage. They are using AWS so free usage means actual expenses. Sure, it can be seen as a marketing expense but Heroku is well known now and don't really need it to gain awareness.

I am happy to pay for my production, but I feel as though part of the benefit is that I get a cost-free development playground. If they take away that, I'd rather put the money into something else where I get even more control.

I guess they want to go leaner, which is fair enough, but they will lose paying customers as well.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by veesahni » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:03 PM UTC

jk5_ wrote: post #36

So, as a fellow hobbyist with 12 free dynos running on Heroku with custom domains, I clearly don't want to pay $84 a month for apps that aren't meant to generate revenue. It is a sad day. Where are you moving your side projects? EDIT: I'm asking since I have no idea where I should go next. Heroku was a blessing.

Perhaps get a VM from DO/AWS/etc and setup something like dokku - https://github.com/progrium/dokku

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by jagthedrummer » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:04 PM UTC

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes.

http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o...

tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now.

Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning that they'd need to move to a new solution in less than an hour to save money. All the hand wringing is very silly.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by smackfu » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:07 PM UTC

jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

The beauty of using your own time is that no money has to change hands, no matter how valuable it is.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by jhkjkhljh » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:08 PM UTC

imdsm wrote: post #42

sleepyhead wrote: post #39

As a paying customer I am glad that Heroku is cutting down on the free usage. They are using AWS so free usage means actual expenses. Sure, it can be seen as a marketing expense but Heroku is well known now and don't really need it to gain awareness.

I am happy to pay for my production, but I feel as though part of the benefit is that I get a cost-free development playground. If they take away that, I'd rather put the money into something else where I get even more control. I guess they want to go leaner, which is fair enough, but they will lose paying customers as well.

For a cost-free development playground, they have the hobby tier. You can run your dev apps for 350 hours per month - that's a lot of dev testing time.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by geoffharcourt » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:08 PM UTC

jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

That's an excellent point. The $84/year tier also allows users to keep an app always on without needing a second dyno, which used to be the requirement to prevent apps from sleeping.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by mark_l_watson » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:09 PM UTC

I think this is great! I was never very comfortable with the free tier where apps are swapped out (leading to a long loading request time) after an idle period.

A low cost $7/month plan for a dyno to always be running sounds good.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by nrmitchi » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:09 PM UTC

jk5_ wrote: post #36

So, as a fellow hobbyist with 12 free dynos running on Heroku with custom domains, I clearly don't want to pay $84 a month for apps that aren't meant to generate revenue. It is a sad day. Where are you moving your side projects? EDIT: I'm asking since I have no idea where I should go next. Heroku was a blessing.

Definitely recommend DO, never had any real problems and takes all of 3 minutes

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by chipgap98 » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 3:14 PM UTC

Does anyone know when this new pricing starts? I have a free app on here that is only heavily used during certain parts of the year and I am about to hit that busy time and hope that this new pricing won't take effect too soon.