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Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by littletimmy »

akuma73 wrote: post #38
some_furry wrote: post #3

Another reason: "You're primarily interested with salary." Sounds like this company prides itself on overworking their employees and paying them less than what they're worth. (Which is what a lot of companies do , but they aren't proud of it.)

Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition. If an employee is dissatisfied with their pay, they have the option to either negotiate a higher salary or find another job with higher pay.

Exactly why I think black people are worthless. After all, at one time black people worked for free!

(/s)

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by weego »

mc32 wrote: post #15

Gotta give them credit for being "honest". Of course it plays off on people wanting to appear as eager and not workshy, but this is pretty sadist and I imagine the company is being a bit masochistic in this job market. Who in their right minds would work for people who openly espouse overwork and aggressive work environment? I'd like a follow up on their ability to retain workers, provided they don't get "reeducated"…

I don't see why shitty people should get credit for being overtly shitty.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by andreash »

kevinmchugh wrote: post #36

I once had a job, where the CEO, during his monthly all-hands call, banned the phrase 'work-life balance'. He talked about it as an invention of the industrial revolution that applied only to sweatshop work. He was from a farm, see, and on farms, you work until the work is done. The company, he told us, never promised its employees work-life balance, and we should all stop talking about it. We should work until the w…

Is the company successful? Do you see any other positive sides the CEOs working attitude?

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by dragontamer »

akuma73 wrote: post #38
some_furry wrote: post #3

Another reason: "You're primarily interested with salary." Sounds like this company prides itself on overworking their employees and paying them less than what they're worth. (Which is what a lot of companies do , but they aren't proud of it.)

Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition. If an employee is dissatisfied with their pay, they have the option to either negotiate a higher salary or find another job with higher pay.

Therefore, Women are only approximately 78% of a man.

There are issues when we take the "Market is always right" approach to defining our morals btw. I prefer if our morals came from another power.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by code_chimp »

littletimmy wrote: post #14

I'm curious to know what is this company that is a "once in a decade" opportunity "to change the world for the better". Is there a limit to this ridiculousness? What's next? "Join our company because it is literally the only path to salvation. Seriously, your life is worthless if you pass this up." Boom... now your company is a cult.

https://angel.co/blockai/jobs/32804-front-end-engineer

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by freehunter »

sp332 wrote: post #32
chojeen wrote: post #13

Why would anyone ever take a job like this when there are tons of interesting jobs that actually do have work-life balance and pay a hell of a lot better? Hell, you could still work long 6-day weeks if you wanted to, but at least that way you would have the option of taking a break.

Like what?

My job. Sitting at home in my pajamas, in a place a hell of lot cheaper than SF, making about the same amount these guys are offering (according to a link someone posted further up). I think I'll go for a walk at lunch, and keep working from the nature preserve down the road because it's a nice day. And when my wife gets home, 90% of the time the laptop closes and I'm off the clock.

If you can't imagine a job paying $100k+ that lets you also have a life, you're not looking hard enough. Or maybe I'm just lucky to not be a programmer.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by EliRivers »

akuma73 wrote: post #38
some_furry wrote: post #3

Another reason: "You're primarily interested with salary." Sounds like this company prides itself on overworking their employees and paying them less than what they're worth. (Which is what a lot of companies do , but they aren't proud of it.)

Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition. If an employee is dissatisfied with their pay, they have the option to either negotiate a higher salary or find another job with higher pay.

Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition.

That makes no sense to me. When I hire someone, it's in the expectation that the extra money they bring in is more than what they're being paid. They're worth what they bring in, and because I want to make a profit, I pay them a bit less than that.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by gipp »

akuma73 wrote: post #38
some_furry wrote: post #3

Another reason: "You're primarily interested with salary." Sounds like this company prides itself on overworking their employees and paying them less than what they're worth. (Which is what a lot of companies do , but they aren't proud of it.)

Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition. If an employee is dissatisfied with their pay, they have the option to either negotiate a higher salary or find another job with higher pay.

There's a tremendous amount of idealization involved there -- that the cost of renegotiation/finding a new job is zero (it's not), that no systematic effects outside the market exist lowering salaries (they do), etc.

As an approximation, employees are paid what they're worth. It's an approximation, not definitional.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by lmm »

mkoryak wrote: post #5
Iftheshoefits wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, the trouble is there are people in this industry who would work at this place, and that contributes to lower wages and poorer working conditions. Sure, I won't work there but the fact that others will has an impact on me at least indirectly. I think that's sufficient reason to call out this kind of job/company for the bullshit it is.

Isn't that kind of like saying that those guys who always stay past 6pm or come in before 8am are assholes?

Damn right they are, if they're doing it without pay. Any union would put a stop to that. A shame America's "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" are unwilling to act in their own interest.

Re: “Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

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Post by [deleted] »

freehunter wrote: post #46
sp332 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what?

My job. Sitting at home in my pajamas, in a place a hell of lot cheaper than SF, making about the same amount these guys are offering (according to a link someone posted further up). I think I'll go for a walk at lunch, and keep working from the nature preserve down the road because it's a nice day. And when my wife gets home, 90% of the time the laptop closes and I'm off the clock. If you can't imagine a job paying…

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