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Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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Isn't this just a marketing stunt? The article contains no engineering facts, just the branding thing. I mean: I expect the "new IE" to inherit code and practices from the "old IE". Unless I'm proven otherwise.

Modern IE is actually pretty respectable. Its biggest issue is that unlike its competitors, it only works on a single platform.

As does Safari. Apple hasn't updated the Windows version in well over a year.

Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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> "Not that Internet Explorer branding will vanish entirely. It will still exist in some versions of Windows 10, but Project Spartan will be the main way Windows 10 users roam the Internet." If IE was an issue for users, pretty sure that means they'll continue to use Firefox or Chrome, not Spartan.

The same way users were going to flock to Netscape instead of IE? Spartan will be pre-installed and "good enough" for a lot of people. IT departments will de facto have to support it because it comes on the Windows image. Joe User read a lot things about Chrome spying on him or blocking his favorite ad blocker and might want to try it out. >If IE was an issue for users IE as legacy browser tied to active x junk and o…

I think part of Spartan's success will live and die on how well it supports addons/extensions. I imagine it won't be backwards compatible with IE's old COM extension nonsense, so it will be interesting to see what they do there...

Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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> "Not that Internet Explorer branding will vanish entirely. It will still exist in some versions of Windows 10, but Project Spartan will be the main way Windows 10 users roam the Internet." If IE was an issue for users, pretty sure that means they'll continue to use Firefox or Chrome, not Spartan.

If IE was an issue for users, pretty sure that means they'll continue to use Firefox or Chrome, not Spartan. If Microsoft wants to "win the browser war", in my opinion the best thing they could do would be to create their own WebKit (or even Chromium) distribution and have it installed in Windows by default.

That may work, but it would be bad for the market overall. The more browser engines we have the better, least of all we wind up in another IE6-like situation where one browser/engine rules the world and dictates web-features.

PS - Yes, I know Google broke away from Apple's WebKit branch. But a lot of browsers are still very WebKit-like.

Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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“We’ll continue to have Internet Explorer, but we’ll also have a new browser called Project Spartan, which is codenamed Project Spartan. We have to name the thing.” Ummm that's confusing. If you're going to kill it, kill it dead.

Well, they can't, because enterprise/legacy sites. They need to keep it kicking around.

But the non-awful modern browser, that won't be called IE.

Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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Yes, let's all use Webkit. Much better....... Later edit : Multiple implementations of a standard is a good thing.

> Multiple implementations of a standard is a good thing. Except that is hardly the case.Competition is good,that's what forced IE to evolve as it was losing marketshares. But let's not kid ourself thinking all the players are in it for web standards. > Yes, let's all use Webkit. Much better....... Because IE supremacy used to be better...

I think IE supremacy was different and much worse than a Webkit supremacy would be because Webkit isn't controlled by a single company and is open source. Different Webkit implementations still compete for marketshare.

I dare say that if all operating systems were nix, that might also be a good thing. It certainly would make life easier for developers.

I understand the problems of monocultures when they are controlled by a single profit-motivated company, but is a monoculture based on open source software so bad? Besides, both webkit and *nix systems aren't exactly monocultures because they have so many different implementations.

Re: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand

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You forget the fact that IE used to be the best browser out there.Netscape ended up being total shit.

I would say that Netscape lived on and became Firefox.

Netscape lives on as Seamonkey.
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