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Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

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Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

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post #38

Hihi, Obviously a great product. One thing though - I wouldn't use this because of the nature of my business, I was hoping and praying that it was a downloadable tool....!!!!! (My business: ideas generation, spitting things out quickly). If you can download, or are going to make available for download. Please let me know : ) Thanks, Geoff

> My business: ideas generation, spitting things out quickly

How does that work? I mean, how do you make money from it?

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

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post #38

Hihi, Obviously a great product. One thing though - I wouldn't use this because of the nature of my business, I was hoping and praying that it was a downloadable tool....!!!!! (My business: ideas generation, spitting things out quickly). If you can download, or are going to make available for download. Please let me know : ) Thanks, Geoff

I believe there are plans to create desktop versions of Cappuccino apps using Atlas. Once that comes out, we will probably release a desktop version of the app.

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

#44

What I can't understand is why you'd model a language after Objective-C. It's verbose to the point of ridiculousness.

It's not the language that's verbose, it's the Cocoa libraries.

Instead of this:

  NSString *s2 = [s1 stringByAddingPercentEscapesUsingEncoding:NSUTF8Encoding];
You could easily have:

  NSString *s2 = [s1 percentEscapes:UTF8];
(I like the first way better, though. It reads like an English sentence, and you know exactly what the arguments are.)

EDIT: formatting.

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

#45

What I can't understand is why you'd model a language after Objective-C. It's verbose to the point of ridiculousness.

It's not the language that's verbose, it's the Cocoa libraries. Instead of this: NSString *s2 = [s1 stringByAddingPercentEscapesUsingEncoding:NSUTF8Encoding]; You could easily have: NSString *s2 = [s1 percentEscapes:UTF8]; (I like the first way better, though. It reads like an English sentence, and you know exactly what the arguments are.) EDIT: formatting.

Good point, but Objective J seems to have borrowed that as well.

i.e.

  [CPApp sendEvent:[CPEvent mouseEventWithType:CPLeftMouseDown location:[theWindow convertBridgeToBase:CGPointMake(x, y)]
or

  [CPApp setTarget:self selector:@selector(disposeOfEvent:) forNextEventMatchingMask:CPLeftMouseUpMask untilDate:nil inMode:nil dequeue:YES];
It's not that I don't applaud the creation of Objective-J, because I do. I think it's a big step towards the next generation of in-browser applications.

To the 280 guys: I'm not trying to insult you or your hard work, and I'm sorry if it came off like that. All I'm saying is that you're going to have a harder time making this a new web standard because of this design fact. It certainly won't deter me, but it will definitely deter others.

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

#46
If you really want to build a valuable web prototyping app, please make it spit out HTML/CSS. That would be the killer feature! Give me a limited, but functional web site/app that I can then modify/refine, instead of a "picture" of it in whatever else format.

THAT would make me use your product in a hearbeat...

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

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post #46

If you really want to build a valuable web prototyping app, please make it spit out HTML/CSS. That would be the killer feature! Give me a limited, but functional web site/app that I can then modify/refine, instead of a "picture" of it in whatever else format. THAT would make me use your product in a hearbeat...

For future... host the prototypes on your site, making them instantly accessible to others... maybe also some sort of prototype exchange/marketplace... ideas for expansion are endless, however, first you have to concentrate on the ability to create clean, tight HTML/CSS prototypes

Re: Mockingbird: New tool for building mockups, written in Cappuccino

#50

My browser tab (Google Chrome) froze up when trying to do a Copy and Paste of a Rectangle element. Other than that, it's a nice tool. Keep up the good work!

Yeah we just found out about that bug. I just pushed a fix for it about 30 minutes ago.
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