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Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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ShitRedditSays, and the "most toxic" subreddit in that result, is actually a joke subreddit. It's a "circle jerk" where everyone flips around the standard racism and sexism (so sexism jokes against men) etc. "breaking the jerk", actually taking it seriously, is a bankable offense. I think this makes their analysis flawed. If you were to look at spelling and grammar, you might conclude that people on polandball are th…

There is plenty of obvious hatred and mocking under the guise of sarcasm in that sub.

This is 100% the case for newcomers to the subreddit, which is already enough of a reason for it to be considered toxic. But it is also true if you are not new to the concept. There is plenty of hatred and anger in the SRS network of subreddits - read the other SRS* subreddits to see - and shitredditsays is where they are allowed to vent it, under the guise of sarcasm.

Sarcasm and satire can be valid and honest. But when an entire community like shitredditsays does nothing but that all day, every day, then it's an convenient place for actual hatred to be expressed.

Sometimes - rarely - there is something egregious enough that it makes sense to mock it and be sarcastic about it, even harshly so. But if that's all you do all the time, like shitredditsays - and tumblrinaction, and others - then you quickly become toxic. A community dedicated to hatred of other groups can't avoid becoming toxic.

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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Well put. "Hatred (or hate) is a deep and emotional extreme dislike. It can be directed against individuals, groups, entities, objects, or ideas. Hatred is often associated with feelings of anger, disgust and a disposition towards hostility." -- Wikipedia (Hatred) It is alright until you get to the three last words. Disposition towards hostility. Things tend to go downhill from there, especially with large groups of…

Is that why the original comment got deleted for going against the narrative and pointing out the blatant bias? If you've kept up with modleaks, you'd realize srs and srd are the real "toxic" communities, which relish their identities of hate, and wheel and deal behind the scenes to spread this ideology. TiA is a sub for people who deal with this stuff in real life and would like to meet and chat with people who aren…

TiADiscussion can be a reasonable place, at times (so can SRSDiscussion). But tumblrinaction itself spends 100% of its time mocking people, often hatefully. That's toxic.

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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I think the more important point is that tumblrinaction mocks people. The same is true of shitredditsays. Both subreddits believe they are mocking and hating people for good and justified reasons, but the fact is, they are communities built around hatred. Communities built around hatred, justified or not, always end up being toxic. Hatred is sometimes - rarely - justified and necessary, but it is not a healthy emotio…

Yes, most people on SRS hate sexism, racism etc. This is a good thing to hate. Here on HN people hate bad code, hate bad practices, had programming, etc

They don't hate the abstract concepts, they clearly hate actual people. And worse, specific groups of people.

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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This is rather hilariously slanted. "Bigotry by subreddit". Really? "[TumblrInAction], a subreddit dedicated to mocking Tumblr – where marginalized groups, particularly LGBTQ, post about their experiences" Here they neatly imply r/TumblrInAction mocks LGBTQ issues when in fact, it mocks people who use identities as tools to divide and hit people over the head with. Which is incidentally what this report does: "Overt…

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Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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This is rather hilariously slanted. "Bigotry by subreddit". Really? "[TumblrInAction], a subreddit dedicated to mocking Tumblr – where marginalized groups, particularly LGBTQ, post about their experiences" Here they neatly imply r/TumblrInAction mocks LGBTQ issues when in fact, it mocks people who use identities as tools to divide and hit people over the head with. Which is incidentally what this report does: "Overt…

I am surprised that subreddits like coontown and other subreddits that are a part of the "nigger network" aren't given as much attention.

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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Yes, most people on SRS hate sexism, racism etc. This is a good thing to hate. Here on HN people hate bad code, hate bad practices, had programming, etc

They don't hate the abstract concepts, they clearly hate actual people. And worse, specific groups of people.

Yes, they hate racists...

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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post #23

ShitRedditSays, and the "most toxic" subreddit in that result, is actually a joke subreddit. It's a "circle jerk" where everyone flips around the standard racism and sexism (so sexism jokes against men) etc. "breaking the jerk", actually taking it seriously, is a bankable offense. I think this makes their analysis flawed. If you were to look at spelling and grammar, you might conclude that people on polandball are th…

There is plenty of obvious hatred and mocking under the guise of sarcasm in that sub. This is 100% the case for newcomers to the subreddit, which is already enough of a reason for it to be considered toxic. But it is also true if you are not new to the concept. There is plenty of hatred and anger in the SRS network of subreddits - read the other SRS* subreddits to see - and shitredditsays is where they are allowed to…

Yes, they hate racism, sexism, and racists and sexists (etc).

There are pleanty of newbie friendly SRS subs, like /r/socialjustice101, or /r/SRSQuestions.

Re: Study and Interactive Visualization of Toxicity in Reddit Communities

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Is that why the original comment got deleted for going against the narrative and pointing out the blatant bias? If you've kept up with modleaks, you'd realize srs and srd are the real "toxic" communities, which relish their identities of hate, and wheel and deal behind the scenes to spread this ideology. TiA is a sub for people who deal with this stuff in real life and would like to meet and chat with people who aren…

TiADiscussion can be a reasonable place, at times (so can SRSDiscussion). But tumblrinaction itself spends 100% of its time mocking people, often hatefully. That's toxic.

Congrats, you're a Puritan who thinks themselves progressive.
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