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At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…

Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.

Human metabolism is a (set of) complex process(es). You are not just burning the plate of food in a furnace.

Of course if you eat less calories than the bare minimum needed to sustain life, you will loose weight no matter what, but that is an unhealthy way of doing it and no sane nutritionist will risk advising you to do so.

On the other hand, it is actually possible to gain weight by restricting calories just a little. Humans did not evolve in an environment where superabundance of food required voluntary abstinence to keep in good shape. When you just cut calorie intake your body enters "starvation mode": metabolism slows down, non essential processes get suspended, you tire out more easily, etc. The result is that if you do not overcompensate with will force and do exercise, you will end up undercutting your calorie usage below your reduced calorie intake, and grow fast.

The body is wise: it knows when things begin to go bad, they always can get worse.

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy them for themselves. Items are also typically eaten for one meal, but it's college students so that's to be expected. > It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your daily calorie intake I think what they're getting at is what you're also m…

> an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example Do you have a link or data to support that idea? Genuinely curious, as that doesn't sound right to me.

I don't want to look up a source offhand, especially since it would require some reading between the lines, but, 56% of NFL players are obese (97% are overweight), according to BMI guidelines. Going on the same "that doesn't sound right" criteria, saying they're less healthy than a skinny, sedentary person just because they have more muscle (and possibly more fat, but after all, BMI doesn't distinguish) doesn't sound right to me.

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

#43
post #23

Click around with this nice tool: http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator Skip the tortilla, sour cream and chips and you've just saved 980 calories. Without those it's hard to create a meal that has a calorie issue. Aside from the sodium, Chipotle is darn healthy.

The thing that lets people create 1200 calorie monstrosities is what makes Chipotle my favorite fast food chain. No matter whether I'm trying to add or cut weight I always know that I can tailor a Chipotle meal exactly to my caloric & macronutrient needs. Both from the fact that the food is easy to customize as well as the fat that they have good calorie and macronutrient breakdowns of each ingredients. Subway, for e…

You can find individual items as listed on pages 2 & 3 of this pdf:

https://www.subway.com/Nutrition/Files/NutritionValues.pdf

Edit: Actually, on the same Chipotlefan link, there is a similar link for Subway. http://www.nutritionix.com/subway/nutrition-calculator

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

#44
post #6

Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…

Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.

So there's 0 calories in human waste then?

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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A few points to balance this out: 1. Many people don't finish what they order in one meal. I can generally get two meals out of a Chipotle burrito. Many do, of course, but that can't be sussed out of the data they used. In addition, the chips sides are sized to share, and I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. 2. It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your dai…

I usually eat a Chipotle burrito for lunch on work days. According to their site's calculator, my burrito is 970 Calories, but given that I'm a regular they usually make me large burritos, so I estimate the Calories to be closer to 1200 or 1300. But I exercise regularly and only eat two meals per day, so it's honestly the best thing I could ask for: tasty calories with a lot of protein, made of seemingly real food, that I don't have to prepare for myself.

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

#46
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy them for themselves. Items are also typically eaten for one meal, but it's college students so that's to be expected. > It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your daily calorie intake I think what they're getting at is what you're also m…

> an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example Do you have a link or data to support that idea? Genuinely curious, as that doesn't sound right to me.

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Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.

The comment you replied to only mentions calories input. kfk didn't say that they were burning the same amount of calories in each scenario.

There are very few activities that let you meaningfully adjust your metabolism, the effective ones are thermogenic in nature. The only one of these that's at all fun is swimming. I spent all of last year trying to exercise to lose weight, the only thing that worked was lowering my intake.

People say weightlifting works, but it only helps when you're already relatively skinny. I know, I tried. You can be strong and fat. People say running works. It has a small effect but it's nothing to write home about. My sister runs marathons and still struggles with her weight. The problem is that exercise is maybe 10% of the picture, whereas intake is the other 90%. It's easy to fool yourself into thinking you're making progress on your weight goals by exercising, then throwing it all away on extra snacks. People get caught up in chasing mushy health goals and forget about the hard empirical facts.

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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post #10
post #6

Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…

> Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. This is horse shit. It does not matter what form the calories are in, if you are eating too many you will gain weight. If you eat less than you need you will lose weight. Source: I lost over 100 lbs in 2010-2011.

> It does not matter what form the calories are in

This is horse shit.

Carbohydrates are very easy to transform to glucose, therefore you get a spike in glucose levels from a carb-reach meal. An excess of glucose gets converted and stored as fat. The same amount of calories consumed as fat or proteins would take much longer to process, thus not causing a spike in glucose level, thus not triggering a fat storage process.

Reference: http://www.livestrong.com/article/264767-how-is-excess-gluco...

Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?

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A few points to balance this out: 1. Many people don't finish what they order in one meal. I can generally get two meals out of a Chipotle burrito. Many do, of course, but that can't be sussed out of the data they used. In addition, the chips sides are sized to share, and I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. 2. It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your dai…

> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy them for themselves. Items are also typically eaten for one meal, but it's college students so that's to be expected. > It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your daily calorie intake I think what they're getting at is what you're also m…

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