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Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

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Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#42

ARMv6 still? I don't see how that's necessary to save on the BOM. I hope legacy code was not the deciding factor here.

Backward compatibility is a smart move sometimes. All the users can swap their design with the rpi2 in place. A nice feature. I'm all for newer ARM ISA, but I can understand (after some HNer explanation) v6 can be desirable.

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#44

Am I weird for wanting to use this for really simple web hosting?

IMO the pogoplug is really simple to reload with Arch Linux and it's super cheap. However, it's worth noting that it's really lacking in horsepower when compared with the Pi and other contemporary offerings. But for ~15 USD shipped, it's astonishingly affordable.

http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

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What's the same: - Same form factor as the model B+ (your enclosures and daughter boards should still fit). - Same full size HDMI port - Same 10/100 Ethernet port - Same CSI camera port and DSI display ports - Same micro USB power supply connection What has changed: - A new turbocharged Broadcom BCM2836 900MHz quad-core system-on-chip with performance at least 6x that of the B+. - 1GB of RAM Source: http://raspberry.…

What about power consumption? I know it is the same power supply (5V, 1A), but this doesn't mean it uses the same amount of power...

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#46

ARMv6 still? I don't see how that's necessary to save on the BOM. I hope legacy code was not the deciding factor here.

Backward compatibility is a smart move sometimes. All the users can swap their design with the rpi2 in place. A nice feature. I'm all for newer ARM ISA, but I can understand (after some HNer explanation) v6 can be desirable.

AFAIK ARM ISAs are almost completely backwards-compatible so ARMv6 code should be fine on ARMv7; however, there does appear to be a few caveats: https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/ARMv7%20c...

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#47
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Anyone know where this can be purchased now?

From the usual Pi manufacturing partners, e.g.:

http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/ra...

EDIT: apologies, it looks like this link in fact contains the "old" B+ not the one discussed here, my bad.

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Backward compatibility is a smart move sometimes. All the users can swap their design with the rpi2 in place. A nice feature. I'm all for newer ARM ISA, but I can understand (after some HNer explanation) v6 can be desirable.

AFAIK ARM ISAs are almost completely backwards-compatible so ARMv6 code should be fine on ARMv7; however, there does appear to be a few caveats: https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/ARMv7%20c...

Yeah, someone on reddit just told me that, I had no idea. Question's still open.

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they required to release those datasheets?

They're not, but it's been common practice in their industry for decades, and it's generally seen as beneficial to OEMs and users to have access to datasheets before purchase. This is why it's also commonplace for most chip manufacturers to offer free samples, even of chips upwards of $20 list price. Most of them even publish enough information to develop hardware and software to interact with these chips even withou…

Ok. I find it rather rude to call a company 'assholes' for doing something that is 100% within their rights. They're releasing a chip that powers a relatively cheap fairly powerful computer, have supported the effort in as many ways as they could without giving up their competitive edge (when you're in a leadship position it is sometimes quite risky to open up too far), nobody forces anybody to buy the product and lastly you can of course always fire up the disassembler and do it the hard way.

Re: Turbocharged Raspberry Pi 2 unleashed

#50

ARMv6 still? I don't see how that's necessary to save on the BOM. I hope legacy code was not the deciding factor here.

According to [1], these will be ARMv7 architecture Cortex-A7 cores. Looks like we'll know for sure only when the foundation announces a public release.

[1]: http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/02/02/raspberry-pi-2-model-...

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