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Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by samgimbel »

icelancer wrote: post #13
phillc73 wrote: post #5

While this is great news, BSD support is currently the second most widely requested enhancement to the Digital Ocean service.[1] I wonder if we'll now see additional storage addressed soon? [1] https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocea... Edit: I've had this theme bookmarked for ages, now might be the time to build it! http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/example

They have a bunch of stuff that was "planned" for Q1 2014 (separate hardware for master/slave setups) that aren't even close to shipping. Pretty frustrating. I like Digital Ocean and I use them in production for some apps but it's very hard to take their techops team seriously when they are missing deadlines by 12-18 months or more without regular updates. It's pretty unprofessional.

Hey there, Sam here from the DO Product team.

You're right, we dropped the ball on UserVoice. There aren't any excuses to be made. I know it's a lot to ask, but please trust that going forward we will be much more transparent through UserVoice & elsewhere. We'll also be much more intentional in communicating our priorities through that medium, as this seems to be at the root of the concern about missing deadlines.

Again, no excuses, we're sorry we let you down, and we're going to get it right going forward.

Cheers!

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by zzzcpan »

xenophonf wrote: post #36
zzzcpan wrote: post #14

Just created a droplet and sadly, it is 10.1 amd64 only. Won't be very useful on low-memory VMs. I hope they add i386 too. EDIT: Anyone cares to explain downvotes?

What's your idea of a low-memory virtual machine? For test purposes I'm running FreeBSD/amd64 under Hyper-V in 128-MB RAM without any problems, although it is using around 32-MB of encrypted swap. That includes the Salt minion, Postfix, and an untuned static Apache 2.4 installation. Of course, it's much more comfortable in 256-MB RAM with around 44-MB RAM free according to top, and of course that's workload-dependent…

I used to run a typical apache/mysql/php/perl stack on amd64 image on 512 MB VM. Actually, I run many things in very tight memory environments on FreeBSD, there is always significantly more room on i386 (in comparison to amd64).

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by woodman »

xhrpost wrote: post #28

As a web developer who knows enough Linux to do minimum dev-ops, could anyone recommend some things worth playing around with in FreeBSD? Like "do this and see how easy it is vs Ubuntu!". Or are the gains more long term like better stability?

I switched from CentOS to FreeBSD as my daily driver a little over a year ago, for the ports tree. I needed a bleeding edge version of valgrind, but my ~/bin and ~/lib were already pretty unwieldy - so that is what caused the switch. That and ZFS. But I've found a couple of other things that I really like: the documentation is awesome, and config files are where you'd expect them to be. Being able to tune system internals online with sysctl is really awesome as well. Wanna change the lowest possible C-state one cpu3? sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.3.cx_lowest=C3.

I dunno how useful that is for web devs, but as a C programmer and perpetual tinkerer - FreeBSD suits my needs very nicely.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by josegonzalez »

xhrpost wrote: post #28

As a web developer who knows enough Linux to do minimum dev-ops, could anyone recommend some things worth playing around with in FreeBSD? Like "do this and see how easy it is vs Ubuntu!". Or are the gains more long term like better stability?

You probably mean "knows enough Linux to do minimum ops".

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by cpach »

andrewsomething wrote: post #16
pyvpx wrote: post #12

I'm wondering what the chances of any other BSD being supported are...? Dragonfly? Open? ...Net? :) edit: after actually reading TFA, it seems unlikely. Well, it seems like Dragonfly is most likely, if any others.

Depending on demand, adding other BSD variants is certainly a possibility. We had to start somewhere, and the FreeBSD community has been very vocal about wanting to see this happen. This is the first non-Linux OS we've decided to support, so we're excited to get feedback on it.

I think FreeBSD was a great choice! I currently have an Ubuntu droplet, but it feels great to know that I can switch to FreeBSD if I like.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

#46

Post by juliangoldsmith »

Thaxll wrote: post #40
joshbaptiste wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dtrace alone will turn you from a developer to a Developer + Systems admin + practical OS engineer, you will understand how your stack is performing within various lower levels of the operating system and be able to tune the hell out of your stack from bottom up.

Come on, 0.1% of the people need Dtrace...

But that doesn't mean it's only useful to 0.1% of people.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

#47

Post by tbirdz »

hiphopyo wrote: post #32

Should have gone with OpenBSD instead to be honest. Half the requests on your UserVoice are for OpenBSD. All the coolest stuff in FreeBSD comes from OpenBSD. OpenBSD -- the world's simplest and most secure Unix-like OS. Creator of the world's most used SSH implementation OpenSSH, the world's most elegant firewall PF, the world's most elegant mail server OpenSMTPD, the OpenSSL rewrite LibreSSL, and the NTP rewrite Ope…

> All the coolest stuff in FreeBSD comes from OpenBSD.

I disagree. Jails, ZFS, and DTrace did not come from OpenBSD.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by mod »

samgimbel wrote: post #41
icelancer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have a bunch of stuff that was "planned" for Q1 2014 (separate hardware for master/slave setups) that aren't even close to shipping. Pretty frustrating. I like Digital Ocean and I use them in production for some apps but it's very hard to take their techops team seriously when they are missing deadlines by 12-18 months or more without regular updates. It's pretty unprofessional.

Hey there, Sam here from the DO Product team. You're right, we dropped the ball on UserVoice. There aren't any excuses to be made. I know it's a lot to ask, but please trust that going forward we will be much more transparent through UserVoice & elsewhere. We'll also be much more intentional in communicating our priorities through that medium, as this seems to be at the root of the concern about missing deadlines. Ag…

You are what you do.

I'm a DO customer, and while you've never let me down, I'll be paying attention now that you've given your word.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by duggan »

Thaxll wrote: post #40
joshbaptiste wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dtrace alone will turn you from a developer to a Developer + Systems admin + practical OS engineer, you will understand how your stack is performing within various lower levels of the operating system and be able to tune the hell out of your stack from bottom up.

Come on, 0.1% of the people need Dtrace...

If it's more widely available, more developers will reach for it.

The more comfortable people are with tools like DTrace, the better they will be able to write and use software.

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