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Post by fpp »

sandworm wrote: post #8

Prisons are the symptom, not the disease. They are the visible end result of social policies. Those policies are dictated by an elected government. It far easier to criticize prisons than to address the beliefs that create them. America lacks any proper mental health care for the poor, a political decision. America lacks proper treatment programs for drug addiction, a political decision. America prides itself on bein…

"Prisons are the symptom, not the disease" - not if you look at it like those that keep the current system alive and thriving. For them, each of those 4,916 facilities is a profit center renting multi-millions every year (or $Billions overall every year).

As soon as you stop allowing to turn prisons into profits with inmate occupations guaranteed by the DoJ but instead come back to a different understanding and deliver various social functions and protections of our societies in the way they are intended to be (Not for profit as a service to society that you finance / support with your taxes) this will change and together with it most likely the stop of "unnecessary arrests" as they have recently be called by the NYPD will become more permanent.

Otherwise soon the "Ministry for Information" might charge you for "information retrieval" and the cost of your execution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_%281985_film%29)

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#43

Post by jnbiche »

This is actually only 14% of the total US prisons.

Read the 'about' page, and it explains the methodology, where the data comes from, as well as the percentage of prisons depicted.

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#44

Post by jnbiche »

Jugurtha wrote: post #42

Are you sure these are not prisons worldwide? I don't know, but that seems like a lot of prisons to be just in the U.S.

Yeah, sadly, it's actually only 14% of them (read the 'about' page).

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#45

Post by Erwin »

fpp wrote: post #41
sandworm wrote: post #8

Prisons are the symptom, not the disease. They are the visible end result of social policies. Those policies are dictated by an elected government. It far easier to criticize prisons than to address the beliefs that create them. America lacks any proper mental health care for the poor, a political decision. America lacks proper treatment programs for drug addiction, a political decision. America prides itself on bein…

" Prisons are the symptom, not the disease " - not if you look at it like those that keep the current system alive and thriving. For them, each of those 4,916 facilities is a profit center renting multi-millions every year (or $Billions overall every year). As soon as you stop allowing to turn prisons into profits with inmate occupations guaranteed by the DoJ but instead come back to a different understanding and del…

Only 8% of the prisoners in US are in private facilities according to DoJ: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf -- where is your source for the claim that every prison is a "profit center" ?

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

Erwin wrote: post #45
fpp wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Prisons are the symptom, not the disease " - not if you look at it like those that keep the current system alive and thriving. For them, each of those 4,916 facilities is a profit center renting multi-millions every year (or $Billions overall every year). As soon as you stop allowing to turn prisons into profits with inmate occupations guaranteed by the DoJ but instead come back to a different understanding and del…

Only 8% of the prisoners in US are in private facilities according to DoJ: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf -- where is your source for the claim that every prison is a "profit center" ?

How many of them have to use overpriced banking and telephony services because some monopoly needs to make a profit?

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Post by valevk »

sshanky wrote: post #22

A lot of those images appear to be airports. Maybe the algorithm mistakenly identifies them?

I think those are prisons which are build next to abandoned airports. Airports are mostly build outside of populated areas (good for prisons), and there is an airport where a plane could land and bring prisoners. Although, I don't know whether planes are allowed to land on abandoned airports.

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Post by Ntrails »

Erwin wrote: post #45
fpp wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Prisons are the symptom, not the disease " - not if you look at it like those that keep the current system alive and thriving. For them, each of those 4,916 facilities is a profit center renting multi-millions every year (or $Billions overall every year). As soon as you stop allowing to turn prisons into profits with inmate occupations guaranteed by the DoJ but instead come back to a different understanding and del…

Only 8% of the prisoners in US are in private facilities according to DoJ: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf -- where is your source for the claim that every prison is a "profit center" ?

The wages paid to prisoners for their (required) labour means someone somewhere is saving money/making a profit.

How that interacts with the costs of keeping them etc I don't have any feeling for

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#49

Post by thraw1 »

draugadrotten wrote: post #38
marincounty wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a guy who went to the Midwest to sell small amounts of weed. Some "Silm Shady" type bought from said friend. Slim Shady decided to shoot someone over a bag. Said friend is in jail for 20 years. Said friend knew nothing of the murder, but the judge felt said friend should be punished--because he supplied an Idiot with weed, and broke federal and state law. The sad part is somehow he talked his brother into join…

> I know a guy who went to the Midwest to sell small amounts of weed. ... we can live comfortably, with low risk Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, as they say. I find it really hard to feel sorry for criminals that are selling so much drugs that they can live comfortably on drug money. That's a significant amount of illegal activity. They knew about the risk, and they took it. Now they have to live with th…

Dude, if the same thing happened in an enlightened society, they would be free people right now.
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