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Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by Gustomaximus »

Cyther606 wrote: post #27
rosser wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you for reals calling false-flag on the Charlie Hebdo attack?

Quoting Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: > Among these purposes is bringing France back into Washington’s orbit. The French president had recently said that the sanctions against Russia should be terminated. > Hollande was allying himself with French economic interests instead of with Washington’s hegemonic foreign policy. > Another purpose is to stifle the growing European sympathy for the Palestinians and to realign Europe…

Wait, your saying this is a false flag attack by the US to fool the French government. And the US 'pretend' to kill a French policeman and don't expect the French to ever realise a real policeman never died....all this illusion after gunning down a bunch of journalists.... you need some lessons in logical reasoning.

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Cyther606 wrote: post #27
rosser wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you for reals calling false-flag on the Charlie Hebdo attack?

Quoting Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: > Among these purposes is bringing France back into Washington’s orbit. The French president had recently said that the sanctions against Russia should be terminated. > Hollande was allying himself with French economic interests instead of with Washington’s hegemonic foreign policy. > Another purpose is to stifle the growing European sympathy for the Palestinians and to realign Europe…

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Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by t0dd »

computerjunkie wrote: post #25
bjackman wrote: post #21

I'm surprised to find that this story has hit me pretty hard emotionally. The stuff Cameron and Theresa May are saying these days is really quite extreme. I feel totally abandoned by politics and genuinely, deeply frightened about the direction our legislature is headed. Is this a part of growing up? The mainstream is so far away from my own views that I don't have any voice. I'm really starting to see why a lot of l…

Is this a part of growing up? A bit off topic: Ive asked myself this question in general for the past couple of months. People dying from wars and incidents that happened a couple of days ago makes me anxious, miserable, lost and helpless.Maybe its media amplifying everything, I don't know but its truly unpleasant.

I completely relate to what you're saying, and I'm sure a lot of us here are burdened by the painful feelings you've expressed. Thank you for sharing. I think the primary cause is the 24/7 news cycle bombarding us incessantly with negative and depressing information. It's extremely unpleasant to bear, particularly when you're sensitive or vulnerable to the sufferings of humanity. I've found it's best to take vacations from it all--to tune it out completely for intervals--and focus entirely on work or the things you love. If you perchance have trouble avoiding news sites or social networks, as I have in the past, I've found an extension like StayFocusd to be really helpful (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stayfocusd/laankej...)

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by ramblerman »

Cyther606 wrote: post #20
sd8f9iu wrote: post #11

Honestly, why do people think that a terrorist attack like this requires any dramatic changes to society? The fact is that some guys got guns and shot up a building, in the name of a currently popular, violent ideology. When will we ever be able to completely eradicate this? The number of people killed per year in the Western world due to terrorist attacks is incredibly low. Perhaps we don't need a routing of our sec…

Because shocking attacks get the public's attention. With all eyes on the TV screen, it's the perfect time to introduce public policy changes that strip people of their rights. All the better if I can defend my statements by inciting a sense of nationalism or publicly shared responsibility for preventing future heinous crimes. This is the raw video of the shooting of the French policeman: http://www.liveleak.com/view…

...

You don't seem to be a troll based on your profile, so I'm not sure what would cause you to focus on details like the fact that it was a 7.62mm rifle and that you would know what the recoil looks like for various types of rifles.

I'm assuming you got fed this idea somewhere else, and went with it. Either way I'd urge you to really try and re-evaluate from a neutral standpoint and see if it genuinely seems probable.

Allowing your mind to go down this road unchecked seems like a path to Fischer-esque paranoia and self delusion.

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by eip »

Cyther606 wrote: post #20
sd8f9iu wrote: post #11

Honestly, why do people think that a terrorist attack like this requires any dramatic changes to society? The fact is that some guys got guns and shot up a building, in the name of a currently popular, violent ideology. When will we ever be able to completely eradicate this? The number of people killed per year in the Western world due to terrorist attacks is incredibly low. Perhaps we don't need a routing of our sec…

Because shocking attacks get the public's attention. With all eyes on the TV screen, it's the perfect time to introduce public policy changes that strip people of their rights. All the better if I can defend my statements by inciting a sense of nationalism or publicly shared responsibility for preventing future heinous crimes. This is the raw video of the shooting of the French policeman: http://www.liveleak.com/view…

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil."

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by pizzeys »

MarcScott wrote: post #9

I wonder if I were to locally encrypt a message using AES and then send it via email to a friend, using a pre-shared key, whether I would be breaking the law or not, in Cameron's Brave New World? If the answer is yes, then how about the Vigenere cipher? The Caesar Cipher? 1337 speak? Writing my message backwards? Making spelling mistakes?

Heaven forbid you use a one-time pad...

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by Jimmed »

chrisdone wrote: post #14

I don't anticipate Brits will be hitting the streets in the name of right to privacy and net neutrality as the French have done for right to free speech, though. We are a cowardly, dull bunch, with little regard for our liberty, I'm afraid. We are matched in this only by our leaders' outmoded worldviews.

I want so very much to disagree with you here, but I can't find the words to do so.

This probably means you're right. I suggest we start a mass exodus to another country with equally melancholy weather and the guarantee of a Waitrose nearby.

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by fit2rule »

Jimmed wrote: post #47
chrisdone wrote: post #14

I don't anticipate Brits will be hitting the streets in the name of right to privacy and net neutrality as the French have done for right to free speech, though. We are a cowardly, dull bunch, with little regard for our liberty, I'm afraid. We are matched in this only by our leaders' outmoded worldviews.

I want so very much to disagree with you here, but I can't find the words to do so. This probably means you're right. I suggest we start a mass exodus to another country with equally melancholy weather and the guarantee of a Waitrose nearby.

Don't bother with the typical UK-expat landing zones: Australia, New Zealand, Santa Monica. These spots are already usurped by the fascists alas...

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by chrisdone »

bjackman wrote: post #21

I'm surprised to find that this story has hit me pretty hard emotionally. The stuff Cameron and Theresa May are saying these days is really quite extreme. I feel totally abandoned by politics and genuinely, deeply frightened about the direction our legislature is headed. Is this a part of growing up? The mainstream is so far away from my own views that I don't have any voice. I'm really starting to see why a lot of l…

Couldn't have put it better. I was among the millions participating in one of history's largest pre-emptive protests—against the Iraq War¹—and I really felt that the people had spoken. Our message was loud and clear and they would have to listen. Well, we know how that turned out. I suspect disenfranchisement (what is having a vote if that vote is ignored?) is a general feeling everybody has, but that also the complete dismissal of our views at the time was quite shocking and has perhaps made a generation of cynics, when probably a generation of outrage is needed.

Local politics can be quite satisfying with real results. The people are there, contactable, accountable and they listen. But at the national level I don't have any feeling of connection whatsoever.

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

Re: British Prime Minister Suggests Banning Some Online Messaging Apps

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Post by jmh42 »

untog wrote: post #39
Cyther606 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I may not be active duty military and a ballistics expert but I implore you to watch this quick video of the shooting: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668 Here it is again in slow motion, zoomed in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_c4IUO6h7w Kalashnikov rifles chambered at 7.62mm exhibit greater than zero recoil under the best of circumstances. It simply isn't credible to state that a Kalashnikov rifle wil…

You just admitted you are not a ballistics expert. - How do you know how much recoil that rifle will generate? - How much blood splatter should you expect? Where do you get this information from? - How fast or slow does a bullet have to be going to be visible on a phone camera video? Given the statements you are making, I assume you already have all this information.

video games /sarcasm
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