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Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking as someone who on a variety of occasions has been asked to bake these kinds of restriction into a piece of code, I've tended to follow the restriction to the letter but not the spirit -- yes, this product has "DRM", but yes, any child with a hex editor can disable it in a few minutes. From this I guess that weak DRM is very often entirely intentional. As for the kind of engineer that does it, you do. Or more…

There have been a few instances of this sort of "malicious compliance" that I've noticed, the biggest of which has been Pandora: If you're not in the US, you have to convince their website that you are in order to play music (due to licensing restrictions). However, last I checked, the audio servers have no such restrictions, so you can still stream directly from them rather than having to push that through a proxy a…

Yep, most country restrictions seem to work that way. The worst though is billing -- e.g. having to have a credit card from that country -- or auto-updating DRM. In both of those cases, it's not impossible but it raises the bar quite a bit. That said, even in billing scenarios, people seem okay with lying about your address, so long as parts of it match and the card can still be billed. E.g. if out of the US and it asks for a US zip code, just use the numbers from your postal code.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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post #6

What kind of engineers keep building these anti-consumer, anti-competition DRM systems? Someone should call them out publicly, by name. The world doesn't need more DRM systems.

NO. Don't dox people. Don't threaten to dox them. Don't encourage others to dox. We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by there actions. Think about that every time you start to grab your pitchfork.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

#46
post #43

My Keurig's electronics died and I was able to recreate them with an Arudino: http://i.imgur.com/1wWxu37.jpg With this I can customize the temperature and use PWM on the pump to adjust pressure/flow. :D If I had to use that 2.0 model I'd just lobotomize it right out of the box.

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Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

#47
post #4

Another solution is to not buy Keurig machines.

Yeah, I'm gradually coming around to an RMS-y way of thinking – having to tape small bits of an old K-cup onto my Keurig 2.0 is DRM bullshit that I have no room for in my life. Fuck them.

Some people will use the new Keurig and its DRMed cups because it provides them with enough value. I will completely bypass this nonsense and make a DRM-free cup of dirt cheap coffee that stimulates my senses, as outlined in another comment. I suggest that you do the same.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I mean the individual engineers.

Maybe they didn't have the option of protesting a design decision from higher up in the company and possibly being out of a job. It may be a crappy thing to do from a consumer perspective, but it's not illegal and arguably not immoral.

Or maybe some young inexperienced engineer wanted to show what he could do and did THIS. That is one way of growing up and becoming experienced: bad judgement.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

#49

Is this a joke? Seems like a lot of people are falling for it...

The real joke is the Marketing concept: that making coffee starting with water, those dirty, scary soil colored grounds, and having to wait 5 minutes is too much work for a cup of coffee.
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