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Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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New URL: https://thepiratebay.cr/ A .ac mirror should to be coming up. We'll see if this has the desired effect or is just another whack-a-mole effort.

Could anyone care to explain how this works?

It's called Whack-a-mole. Anyone waiting for Pirate Bay to inevitably come back up can use:

http://www.torrentz.eu

http://www.kickass.to

etc, etc.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Honestly, I think the pirate bay getting busted would be a good thing, as it would probably lead to the creation of more distributed, robust filesharing platforms. The actual bulk data distribution is already quite P2P; the only remaining centralized part is the part that distributes the magnet hashes.

Fully decentralized P2P networks are probably older than bittorrent (Gnutella, eMule, and their similar clones).

The fact is people don't want 100% decentralized P2P network; people want the fakes and the viruses removed and so on.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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I noticed weird behavior on multiple VPNs lately (those that should protect torrent users using OpenVPN) as the IPs given by VPN provider upon connecting were suddenly located in the US (Massachusetts) instead of Sweden, Finland etc. where you intended to connect. Always check the location of the IP address you get to be sure you aren't MitM-ed...

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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post #36
post #5

Honestly, I think the pirate bay getting busted would be a good thing, as it would probably lead to the creation of more distributed, robust filesharing platforms. The actual bulk data distribution is already quite P2P; the only remaining centralized part is the part that distributes the magnet hashes.

Could a way around the centralisation be to encode the magnet hash database (like btdigg) as metadata in the distributed hash table? Then we just need a seed to get at this somehow, which could be spread around forums. Offload searching of the database onto clients. Talking in vague terms because I'm stretching beyond my knowledge here. btdigg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTDigg

Gnutella has p2p search.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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So....what happened to the "raid-proof" server array they were talking about in September? ( https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-runs-on-21-raid-proo... )

I'm imagining a Daemon (as in the Daniel Suarez book) like system that gets paid by web advertising companies in Bitcoin, and automatically spawns it's servers on cloud providers who accept payment in Bitcoin. One or more hot backups on a single VM would silently wait for the live system to go down, then respawn itself and switch over the DNS. Namecoin could be used in place of, or augmenting, traditional domain names.

The only really tricky bit is "raid-proofing" secrets (Bitcoin/Namecoin private keys, DNS credentials), but Amazon and presumably other cloud providers are starting to offer HSMs. Or perhaps some combination of Shamir's Secret Sharing and multisig wallets + voting pools.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

where does the version control repo live?

Excellent point. I'll continue to think on this!

It might be that a blockchain is the way to go.

Bitcoin lets you store 80 bytes with each transaction. Maybe that isn't enough for a magnet link and description, but you could use multiple transactions. Maybe there is more optimal blockchain design though.

Ideally you'd want a way of validating the content as well.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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The organisation that reported Thepiratebay and therefore is the reason for this raid is called Rättighetsalliansen (The Alliance of Rights). The Alliance of Rights is the same organisation as The Anti Pirate Bureau but with a new name. This is what they say on their website (roughly translated): "The police raided The Pirate Bay today inside an Internet company in the Stockholm region. Rättighetsalliansen is behind…

It's a common mistake by techies to think that technical details make a difference in (Swedish) court. They don't. Technical details are rarely important in Swedish court, where the court is free to consider all evidence, even if it's obtained illegally or just is weird.

So called "technical evidence" is rarely "technical" for techies. It's often just HTTP logfile print-outs or a screen shot of a file sharing program. That's as technical as it gets. The judges don't know Excel from Word, and the prosecutor don't know HTTP from UDP. The defense have to work on the judges, not on the truth.

And in the end, they judges judge people based on emotion and political opinion anyway. After all, isn't a law but a formal moral opinion?

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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The organisation that reported Thepiratebay and therefore is the reason for this raid is called Rättighetsalliansen (The Alliance of Rights). The Alliance of Rights is the same organisation as The Anti Pirate Bureau but with a new name. This is what they say on their website (roughly translated): "The police raided The Pirate Bay today inside an Internet company in the Stockholm region. Rättighetsalliansen is behind…

Technicalities aside. They're still making money by helping people "pirate" stuff. Assuming ads on their site do actually generate revenue, and that revenue gets forwarded to them.

Though I kinda expect the average piratebay user to have adblock installed.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excellent point. I'll continue to think on this!

It might be that a blockchain is the way to go. Bitcoin lets you store 80 bytes with each transaction. Maybe that isn't enough for a magnet link and description, but you could use multiple transactions. Maybe there is more optimal blockchain design though. Ideally you'd want a way of validating the content as well.

Or just host the site in the Tor network.
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