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Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by sp332 »

richmarr wrote: post #22
AndrewDucker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it pretty likely that once we reach 50% it will switch from "That thing that techies care about" to "Something people assume everyone has", and that any remaining ISPs that don't provide IPv6 will rush to get it done. I'm sure that IPv4 support will continue for a fair while though.

What's the mechanism that makes that first company drop support for IPv4? Cost? It feels like it'd need to be a dramatic cost saving in order to kick in at 50% adoption.

Selling large contiguous blocks of IPv4 addresses can be quite lucrative.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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dhm wrote: post #37
skywhopper wrote: post #25

Two comments about the presentation itself: 1. The color selections on the "Per-country IPv6 Adoption" tab are abysmal for those of us with poor color perception. 2. Since we're talking about replacing outdated technology, why use a Flash-based graph on the "IPv6 Adoption" tab?

The graphic in the "Per-Country IPv6 adoption" tab appears to be implemented with scalable vector graphics.

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Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by atomt »

zaphoyd wrote: post #32
liveoneggs wrote: post #19

I think the US is mostly mobile

Comcast and Time Warner Cable both have larged wired IPv6 footprints (28% and 12% of their quite sizable customer bases respectively), as do a number of universities.

And AT&T with their huge 6rd deployment for DSL.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by dan1234 »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #14

In the meantime Google Compute Engine does not support IPv6.

Many residential ISPs don't. I'm stuck on Verizon to enable IPv6 on FIOS.

Non of the major UK ISPs seem to be passed the planning stage and my mobile network seems to be using carrier grade NAT.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by smcl »

Has anyone got any idea what the (relatively) big spike on October 4th 2014 was? A quick google revealed it's not some "World IPV6 day" or something (though there was something like that on 2011 which had a next-to-zero impact).

Was there maybe a new phone or console (or an OS update released to either) released?

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by microtonal »

DieBuche wrote: post #8
skrause wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rate-limiting is still easy with IPv6, you just limit whole subnets (e.g. a /64) instead of single IP addresses. I guess Google has figured that out as well. I actually do believe that this is real traffic. Here in Germany the number of connections with native IPv6 is rising constantly. At home all my devices are always using IPv6 when connecting to Google services because I also have native IPv6. Those 12.26% for Ge…

In Germany anyone on the telekom network who has a new contract or changed an exisiting contract in the last 16 months or so has IPv6.

As said in another comment, Kabel BW too. IPv6 with IPv4 tunnelling over DS-Lite.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by 2bluesc »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #14

In the meantime Google Compute Engine does not support IPv6.

Many residential ISPs don't. I'm stuck on Verizon to enable IPv6 on FIOS.

Comcast in San Francisco supports native IPv6 on residential accounts. Even did it (almost) right and include a /60 prefix delegation.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Post by ufmace »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #31
richmarr wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the mechanism that makes that first company drop support for IPv4? Cost? It feels like it'd need to be a dramatic cost saving in order to kick in at 50% adoption.

See the graph here: http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html ARIN is going to run entirely out of IPv4 addresses for general distribution in April of 2015. It's not going to be long before you'll need IPv6 if you want to do anything peer-to-peer.

I thought that was like the Voyager leaving the solar system story that keeps repeating every few years but never seems to actually happen.

Only meant partly in jest. When they start to get really rare, the price of IPv4 blocks will keep going up, until some institutional holders of large blocks start selling. It could take quite a long time before it's really gone for good.

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