A few weeks later, he and other VKontakte executives folded 5000-ruble notes — worth about $155 at the time — into paper airplanes and threw them out an office window, sparking a fight in the street below. I'm wondering if that can be qualified as "mean". Doesn't look like a nice thing to do. I also can't see what was the motivation other than "Look, I'm rich".
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#42During the standoff with the SWAT team, which took place soon after, he wouldn’t answer the door. They went home after an hour. Wait, what? Is that what police in Russia normally do? This would never, ever happen in the United States. LAPD actually even has a "Wrong Doors Unit" which goes around repairing broken down doors when the cops raid the wrong address.[0] [0] http://www.dailynews.com/20080316/repairs-help-reb…
You have to open door for them.
However I'm not a lawyer and that might not be valid anymore.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
A very naive view targeted at equally naive Western audiences. Repression in USSR after WW2 was negligible compared to 1930s.
It wasn't negligible in my country (Czechoslovakia), where the USSR was the model. I think almost everybody felt relief when Stalin (and Gottwald) died. Maybe Stalin didn't oppress people much after the war, but he still got the _right_ to do so, and the Durov's sentence is 100% correct.
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#44Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#45During the standoff with the SWAT team, which took place soon after, he wouldn’t answer the door. They went home after an hour. Wait, what? Is that what police in Russia normally do? This would never, ever happen in the United States. LAPD actually even has a "Wrong Doors Unit" which goes around repairing broken down doors when the cops raid the wrong address.[0] [0] http://www.dailynews.com/20080316/repairs-help-reb…
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#46I think people ignore one very important aspect of Telegram which is privacy. All other chat apps just want all my private data. There is no privacy at all, I feel almost naked. After coming to know about Telegram I couldn't be happier. I don't care if the encryption in strong or not, at last I have a chat app which many people use and isn't a total privacy nightmare.
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#47I think people ignore one very important aspect of Telegram which is privacy. All other chat apps just want all my private data. There is no privacy at all, I feel almost naked. After coming to know about Telegram I couldn't be happier. I don't care if the encryption in strong or not, at last I have a chat app which many people use and isn't a total privacy nightmare.
Downvote all you want but please share your perspective also.
That's pretty much the polar opposite of "private".
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is by far a superior experience to Facebook, given how intuitive, fast and sleek it is. It's riddled with childporn and sick/illegal stuff like that. Is that's your definition of "superior experience"? It's a crappy Facebook clone,always has been and always will.
If VK is riddled with "childporn and sick/illegal stuff", I have never come across it. One could say the same about the internet in general, but that hasn't stopped you or I from using it.
"... but that hasn't stopped I from using it."
"... but that hasn't stopped me from using it."
This way it's easy to see which one is right.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
False dichotomy. You can permit law enforcement to make warranted requests against specific users or groups while still not allowing them access to all the data. You don't have to choose between "revolutionary hero" and "let the government do whatever they want with your company and your users", at least not in North America. In a country like Russia it may be different.
"You can permit law enforcement to make warranted requests against specific users or groups while still not allowing them access to all the data." Can you? With the Patriot Act? The fact is that the US gobertment can talk to any worker of any company of the US and blackmail her into doing whatever they want. If this person tells anybody, he goes to jail. "You don't have to choose between "revolutionary hero" and "let…
It is possible to disagree with police without being outright antagonistic to them.