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Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by agilebyte »

archagon wrote: post #35

This is awesome, but I wish developers would charge for polished, full-featured software like this. The people who made this probably have full-time jobs; meanwhile, independent developers who want to break into this niche now have to compete with "free". This results in a market ruled by large corporations that can "subsidize" free software via the spare time of their employees. Maybe I'm just being too grouchy. Thi…

Well maybe that is the point. The developers get paid, somehow, so why do they need to get even more money? This way more people can use their software because it is free.

(I don't know the developers)

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by evmar »

fdsary wrote: post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

This just came up recently and my previous comment was upvoted, so please forgive me for repasting a link to an old post of mine where I described switching from vim (~10 years experience) to emacs (now at ~5 years):

http://evan-tech.livejournal.com/261214.html

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by vectorpush »

archagon wrote: post #35

This is awesome, but I wish developers would charge for polished, full-featured software like this. The people who made this probably have full-time jobs; meanwhile, independent developers who want to break into this niche now have to compete with "free". This results in a market ruled by large corporations that can "subsidize" free software via the spare time of their employees. Maybe I'm just being too grouchy. Thi…

I'm not really sure how practical it is to sell an open-source desktop application; anyone can compile and run it for free and the 'sell support' model usually isn't viable for something as simple as a text editor.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by ajross »

idbehold wrote: post #9
trevorhartman wrote: post #3

I don't get it. Haven't they ever heard of vim/emacs?

Do those support native OSX key bindings?

What value would they have if they did?

The key bindings and their customizability, standard or not, are part of the reason these tools are better than the HID-blessed equivalents.

This question is like whining about a F1 racer because it doesn't have windshield wipers.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by archagon »

vectorpush wrote: post #44
archagon wrote: post #35

This is awesome, but I wish developers would charge for polished, full-featured software like this. The people who made this probably have full-time jobs; meanwhile, independent developers who want to break into this niche now have to compete with "free". This results in a market ruled by large corporations that can "subsidize" free software via the spare time of their employees. Maybe I'm just being too grouchy. Thi…

I'm not really sure how practical it is to sell an open-source desktop application; anyone can compile and run it for free and the 'sell support' model usually isn't viable for something as simple as a text editor.

How about releasing the source without any of the art assets or interface nibs? Full benefit of open source while still providing high value for money. (Sure, the geeks will go and create their own assets, but it won't be the same.)

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by bbcbasic »

fdsary wrote: post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

RE: Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors?

I am currently learning Vim and using it with the NERDTree plugin as a fairly nice environment to write Ruby on Rails code in my spare time. It is also nice as I have a low power PC running ubuntu in a virtualbox. So Eclipse is a no-no anyway.

At work I use Visual Studio but have a Vim open all the time for where the Vim advantages outweigh the visual studio advantages. Often this is in editing config and xml files. C# Code files are nicer to edit in Visual studio with autocomplete, debugging etc.

Main things I love about Vim - being able to split and tab quickly from the keyboard. And all those keyboard shortcuts to do practically anything. And it is fast. I really hate Eclipse now! Visual Studio is OK but Vim is so fast and lightweight.

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