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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by paracyst »

sergiotapia wrote: post #23
Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

"Microsoft killed my pappy. And my pappy's pappy."

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by bovermyer »

A lot of people seem to think that steps like this are just Microsoft catching up. Which, I suppose, they are. But there's something else here too - this kind of thing, where Microsoft is opening up to the open source community, releasing more free tools, releasing more open source projects, all started happening when Satya Nadella took the reins.

I think what we're looking at is a CEO that gets it and is trying to move as fast as possible to turn the monolithic company around. That's no mean feat, considering how long Microsoft has gone with everything being behind closed doors in a licensing maze.

I for one approve of this trend.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by jbb555 »

_pmf_ wrote: post #18
Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

> In non-enterprise organizations, up to 5 users can use Visual Studio Community. That's very sloppily worded. Is it 5 concurrent users? May 5 people create a product and 4 others (after delivery) maintain it?

I think the bigger issue would be knowing who is using it. One team might think we only have 5 people so we'll use it! And a different team in another office might think the same. Oops.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by BloatControl »

drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

Welcome to the Mickysoft BloatWorld. And do not forget to get the new 700+ MB Update, so you can live up to even more bloat - this update alone flatulated 5+ GB on the harddrives I have seen.

This is not just about "style" or "personal preference", it is a serious problem: it eats too much energy and therefore destroys the planet, millions of old but perfectly usable devices are transformed into highly dangerous toxic waste because Windows 8x is too slow for them and - most important - we loose a whole generation of brains as too many young developers grow up in the perception that this kind of bloat is acceptable, what is a real catastrophe for the whole industry - it is so hard to find people that can program without crutches and really know what they are doing.

We should more actively avoid this bloat and support better alternatives.

Yes, Mickysoft jobs pay the bills for many, but this happened because we tolerated this too long and alternatives were too weak. Nowadays it is possible to replace all the legacy MS waste that still exists in many companies with better solutions.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by drapper »

timrichard wrote: post #32
drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

> Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development. Sorry to reply on a tangent, but for that sort of development I feel compelled to chip in and recommend WebStorm. It's not free, but ships with a boatload of features that are perfect for NodeJS/WebDev. Like a reverse-debugger that you can use on your serverside as well as front-end code. A real time-saver. ht…

I know WebStorm, thanks, wanna try the competition :)

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by tegeek »

drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

During installation you can choose a customize path and un-check everything you dont need.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/Evju1.png

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by ssharp »

leoedin wrote: post #38
Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

The 250 users / $1 million revenue thing is a bit weird. Any tech company with more than 10 employees probably has upwards of $1 million/year in revenue. The salary bill alone will be pushing that quite quickly. There seems to be a huge disparity between 250 PCs and $1 million annual revenue. If you had 250 PCs with less than $1 million annual revenue you'd be paying each employee less than $4000 a year.

Or you could just be losing a lot of money!

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by obsurveyor »

drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

There are checkboxes to not install SQL, MFC libraries and friends. It makes it a 9GB vs. 10GB install, according to its stated amount, I didn't check actual usage.
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